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Carter

Carter Report 26 Aug 2007 18:24

back now and still looking but no luck so far
linda

Carter

Carter Report 26 Aug 2007 12:22

yeah it did say peter was her dad doesnt say deceased the witnessess where mary ann baxter and john smith the minister was thomas robert potter
thanks for your help linda
ps if i dont get back to you i am cooking lunch for in laws !!!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Aug 2007 11:46

This could be Ann's father in 1841 (again spelt with one "s"):-

Name: Peter Croston
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Leigh
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Atherton Lane Ends

Occupation: Independant

Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Atherton and Tyldesley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anne Croston 56
Edward Croston 28
Peter Croston 60

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 513; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Leigh; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 9; Page: 9

Kath. x

Heather

Heather Report 26 Aug 2007 11:46

LOL Gender - male.

Thing is, didnt the cert say Peter as dad? unless he had died........

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Aug 2007 11:45

This looks like Ann in 1841 (name spelt with one "s")

Name: Ann Croston
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wigan
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Hindley Green

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Hindley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Croston 9
Betty Croston 2 Mo
Edward Croston 30
George Croston 20
Jane Croston 7
Mary Croston 12
Sarah Croston 20
Thomas Croston 25

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 522; Book: 10; Civil Parish: Wigan; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 24; Page: 11

This looks like they may all be siblings living together (although the 1841 census doesn't give relationships so can't be sure).

Kath. x

Heather

Heather Report 26 Aug 2007 11:44

Of course, depending on when her birthday was and when her marriage date was, she may have been 21 anyway and not fibbing.

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert?

Carter

Carter Report 26 Aug 2007 10:01

well thanks for that judith and carol i hadnt thought of the obvious.with some of my rellies getting married as young as 16 it never dawned on me about them having their parents permission. so perhaps thats it. i have tried to find ann crosston and her family on the 1841 census and had no success. all i know is she was born c1831 either in westhoughton or hindley lancashire depending on which census you look at ( they are very close together ) her father was Peter Crosston occupation weaver cant find anythng on peter crosston
anyone got any other ideas
thanks linda

Judith

Judith Report 26 Aug 2007 09:52

Full age means able to marry without parents' permission - 21 or over in those days, (nowadays its 18). Don't think any proof of age was asked for so perhaps the lady in question told a white lie - could also be why they went to Lady Huntingdon's Connexion, which was a non conformist church (ie not conforming to the Church of England) and was part of the Methodist movement I think. Perhaps they thought the vicar in the parish church would know she was under age:-)

Carter

Carter Report 26 Aug 2007 09:43

i have received the marriage cert of my great great grandparents and it is bafling me a little.
RALPH ASPINALL and ANN CROSSTON married 22nd February 1851.
in the column for age it just states " full " what does this mean? i think ralph was born c 1821 so he would have been 30 years old and Ann was born 1831 so would have been 20 years old
( according to census and to the family gravestone )
it also states they married in Tyldesley Chapel in the district of Leigh Lancashire according to the rights and ceremonies of " Lady Huntingdons Connexion " whats all that about ?
any help would be great
thanks linda