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Anyone up for a challenge ?

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Clare

Clare Report 31 Aug 2007 11:40

Hi
I am going mad trying to find a family in 1891
See below in a minute for details

Clare

Clare Report 31 Aug 2007 11:45

Have found family in 1901 but can't find them in 1891
William Picken, Born 1863, Tunstall

1901
95, Nash Peake St, Tunstall, Staffs

William Picken, Hd, M, 38, Iron Worker,born Tunstall
Kate Picken, W, M, born Cinderford, Gloucs
Martha M Picken, D, 13, born Cinderford, Gloucs
Edward M Picken, S, 11, born Brindley Ford, Staffs
Francis Picken, S, 9, born Pendleton, Lancs
Harold Picken, S, 6, born Warrington, Lancs
Horace Picken, S, 1, born Tunstall, Staffs

Hope someone can help,
Cheers Clare

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Aug 2007 12:02

I was wondering if Kate was his 2nd wife, but doesn't look like it.

Marriages Mar 1887
Hyndman Kate Westbury S. 6a 350
Morse Jane Westbury S. 6a 350
Picken William Westbury S. 6a 350
WEBB Richard Westbury S. 6a 350

Cinderford is in Westbury on Severn reg'n district.


Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Aug 2007 12:07

1891: I'm pretty sure this is them.

Name: Kate Picken
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Irlam O Th Height
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Franklin Street

Occupation: Ironworks Roll Turner

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Picken 28
Kate Picken 20
Alice M Picken 3
Edward M Picken 1

Clare

Clare Report 31 Aug 2007 12:17

Thanks Ozi
I had got the wrong marriage and didn't realize until you gave me the one above. I had been looking at Staffs BMD and presumed he was married in Stoke area to a Kate - wondered why I couldn't find her before marriage as I was using Kate Hyndman's details !!
Found Kate in 1881 and her father was manager of a forge . Perhaps William was down there working and married boss's daughter.
Still haven't found them in 1891 though
Tried looking for Kate's family in 1891 but they seem to have disappeared too - aargh !

Cheers Clare

Clare

Clare Report 31 Aug 2007 12:24

Hi Tom and Ozi
Looks like it is them

Many thanks
Clare

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Aug 2007 23:22

No wonder you couldn't find them!

1891:
Name: James Hyndman
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Loughor
Ecclesiastical parish: St David
Town: Loughor
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: Yew Bank Cottage, Dock Street

Occupation: Forge manager (tin)

Registration district: Llanelly
Sub-registration district: Loughor
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Hyndman 57
Mary A Hyndman 47 - Pontypridd, Glamorgan
William Hyndman 20 - (Tin plate) Mill furnace M[an?]
George Hyndman 18 - Tinman
James Hyndman 16 - (Tin) Mill behinder
Emma Hyndman 12 - scholar
Thomas Hyndman 10 - scholar
Rheola Hyndman 7 - scholar

All kids born Cinderford even though they've been transcribed as Alderford, Glamorgan, & Mary as Portfield, Glamorgan.


Births Sep 1883
Hyndman Reolla Mejorie M Westbury S. 6a 240

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Aug 2007 23:32

1901:
Name: Mary Ann Hyndman
Age in 1901: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Rhymney, Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil parish: Loughor
Ecclesiastical parish: Loughor
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: Wain or Waun Rd (?? - difficult to read)

Occupation: none recorded

Registration district: Llanelly
Sub-registration district: Loughor
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Hyndman 58 - (wife not widow)
Emma Hyndman 22
Rheola Hyndman 17 - pupil teacher

The girls are born Cinderford if you know what you're looking for.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 Aug 2007 23:37

1901:
Name: James Hyndman
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1841 (lying about his age now?? - unless Joanna filled it in & guessed.)
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Brierley Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: Brierley Hill St Michael
Town: Brierly Hill
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 49 Lavel Rd

Occupation: Forge & Mill Manager

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
Joanna Badger 64
Elen Trudgeon 10
James Hyndman 60

Clare

Clare Report 1 Sep 2007 08:40

Hi Ozi
Just read your PM
Thank you so much for the hard work,
Cheers Clare