Genealogy Chat

Bacardi,

In any particular parish register I am researching I try to construct family trees for all the instances of the names I am interested in. That sometimes helps to eliminate people of the same name.

Remember too that although you may be looking for baptisms before 1837 for some time marriage and death certificates will still be useful, as will the earliest censuses. Even the 1851 census will often throw light on people born , 1760-70.

Peter

Thanks Margaret

Have to go to bed now - early start tomorrow:-(

Will send details as soon as I get home - will be late tomorrow afternoon

Many thanks

Bacardi XX

Sure, Bacardi, happy to do a look-up.
Marg

Many thanks for all your replies and ideas:-)

I have been to the records office at Kendal last week and got details from the parish records for my James and Pugmire families. I just wanted to try and have more than one piece of information - you know like having two proofs of identity.

I will try the wills and also burial records (MI's) and see where they take me:-)

Ozibird - It's just that there seems to be two families with the same names running through them and its difficult if not impossible to work out who belongs with who, without some other form of identification - if you know what I mean

Margaret - Thanks for the offer - I will PM you my James and Pugmire details - if thats ok??

Again many thanks

Bacardi XX

Bicardi, when you checked the original parish records why did you doubt they were your ancestors? Were there others baptized - same name, around the same time (4-5 years)?

Ozi.

I've only so far been able to get back to 1780's and I think that was partly the luck of them living till the 1841 census although I think I found one branch - had two sets of siblings later on in adult hood who had been born approx 1818 ish and found them on the igi with parents details and other siblings, although I dont know how Id verify it to 100% thankfully that branch of the tree had an uncommon surname, more common surnames on my tree have drawn to a halt around the 1841 census.

You can look for wills on National Archives to see if anyone is named in there? and if you're not too far away from the area they were in gravestone reading could help? They often list joe blogs, husband of ??? and son of ??? leaving children ??? and ???

Sometimes, Bacardi, you get lucky and get more info from BVRI. I've seen some marriage entries that have not only the father's name but also the father's father. But, as I say, you have to be lucky, I'm not!
If you'd care to give some names I can have a look. Maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones.
Marg

Try http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk documentsonline.

There may be wills or apprenticeship records. If your family were paupers there might be Poor Law information.

I found one of my relatives as a witness in a court case on the Old Bailey website. It gave his address which confirmed the connection.

Ozi.

Thanks for your reply Di

Thats just my problem - I'm not sure about the parish records and wondered was there anything else that I could use to confirm.

I dont know what though - I have heard mention on here of some kind of bonds (for illigitimate children) and looking at rent details - but not sure where to start with these, or if there are any other avenues I could look at:-(

Bacardi XX

A long time ago, one of our family had a professional genealogist work on our tree, pre 1837.

She looked at the baptisms and marriages and drew conclusions about the family tree.

Without things like family Bibles with names and dates recorded, I guess there is no absolute proof, but only the weight of evidence in the parish records.

Di

Nudged for tonight - how do you confirm you are on the right track with pre 1837 families please?

Bacardi XX

I have traced my family back and am now pre 1837, so no certificates and I was wondering how I can confirm that I am still following the right family.

For example I have found what I think are relatives on the IGI and been to the Records Office to check the original baptism and marriage entries, but there isn't enough information on the documents to confirm they are the right family, so are there any other documents I could use to confirm that it is the right family?

How do others manage pre 1837?

Many thanks for any advice given

Bacardi XX

See below in a mo