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1891 just for ref

Name: Walter Groves
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Laura
Gender: Male
Where born: Wembley, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Ealing
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Evelyne Groves 1
Annie Laura Groves 25
Charles Henry Groves 4
Walter Groves 30
James Howell 19
James Edward Lord 26



So where does Walter born 1890 fit with this family?


Maureen

Paddington and Wembley are both in NW London. Paddigton is fairly central - it's about 1 m from Marble Arch/Hyde Park to Paddigton Station. Wembley Stadium is a further 5 m NW.
Wembley now forms the N half of Brent (with Willesden being the S half). To the SW of Wembley is Ealing, and to the E is Hendon (now part of Barnet). NW of Wembley is Harrow, and in 1881 Wembley was in the census district of Harrow on the Hill. Willesden and Paddington (now part of Westminster) are adjacent. Cranford is out by Heathrow airport.
As you can infer from your census returns, this far out of London was pretty rural back then. Wembley didn't really start getting built up until the 1920s/30s, and the availability of open land influenced the choice of Wembley for the Stadium's location (opened 1923, I think - in any case 1923 was the first FA Cup @ Wembley).

Just out of interest, I looked for Walter Groves pob=Wembley in 1881 MDX - I didn't find him, but I did find some other Groves: (Alperton is in the SW corner of the 1950s Wembley borough, but it was probably thought of as seperate back then.)

GROVES, Moses Head Birth: Lond Wembley
Census: Lond Willesden
GROVES, George Head Birth: Lond Wembley
Census: Lond Harrow On The Hill
GROVES, George Head Birth: Lond Wembley
Census: Lond Harrow On The Hill
GROVES, Elizabeth Dau Birth: Lond Wembley
Census: Lond Harrow On The Hill
GROVES, Emma R. Serv Birth: Lond Wembley
Census: Lond Harrow On The Hill
GROVES, George Head Birth: Lond Alperton
Census: Lond Harrow On The Hill
GROVES, George Son Birth: Lond Alperton
Census: Lond Harrow On The Hill
GROVES, Henry Son Birth: Lond Alperton
Census: Lond Harrow On The Hill

1886 married Annie Luara Whitrod Hendon Middlesex
1891 Farm Servant 6 farm cottage ealing middlesex. br Wembley aged 31.
1901 Stockman Park Farm Cottages Cranford Middlesex. br Wembley aged 41
Age at marrage 26.
Thank you to everybody for your help.

Thanks everyone for your help, had to go last nigh, I will go trough my files again and come back later with more info thank you once again

Don't know if this helps.
I found a Walter Groves in 1901 living in Wembley, born in Preston, Middx (which is very near Wembley). Only trouble is he was 15 (b. c1886).
Are you sure about the 1890?

I've looked at 1901, and can't see a Walter Groves born in 1890 in either Wembley or Paddington.................

Reg

If you want help, please give more detail........

What census info have you found?

Reg

i know you prob have but if you have his wed cert you will have his dads name so you should be able to trace his parents on the earlier census???

i don't understand (bit blonde) its normaly between 1901 and 1911 that the people get stuck.

what info do you have and what info do you want, there's normally someone on here that can help

have grandfathers marraige cert with is name and wife , also have them 1901 and 1891 census, but cann ot get back further.
Phyllis

have you looked on the 1891 census i only have bmd but if you go onto the recordes office there are people who offer to do look ups and they will prob find him on 1901 aswell
but tell them what his parents names where so they get the right sensus.

how do you know he was born in 1890?

Thanks Mellie,
Back to drawing board.
Phyllis

these are the only walter groves i could find in1890 none are pad or wem

GROVES Walter Dudley.6c 144 2 1890
GROVES Walter Arthur Shoreditch.1c 49 2 1890
GROVES Walter George Greenwich.1d 1018 3 1890
GROVES Walter Orlando Atcham.6a 573 4 1890
GROVES Walter Stewart Chipping Norton.3a 791 4 1890

Nether do I Kath. Hope someone does as parents are right but not area.

in answer to your question no,
there no where near each other

I don't know London myself but looking on the map they don't seem too far apart.

Kath. x

Please can someone help is Wembley and Paddington in same area.. Trying to find birth of Walter Groves born 1890.
Phyllis