Genealogy Chat

Thanks Janice
Just saw your message of 15/09/07.
Carol

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There is a Robert Bogan death in Lewisham in 1939. Do you think this is the same Robert Bogan from the 1919 marriage?
If so, he is 67 at death which roughly ties in with a Robert Bogan in the censuses from East Stonehouse in Devon. Does that ring any bells?

Janice

Hi Carol,

Is this of any help? Don't know if you have ancestry or not. They were in St James Rd, Camberwell in 1891:

Joseph C E Larocke
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark, London, England

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George

Anny E Larocke 10
Cornelius Larocke 6
Earnest Larocke 14
George I Larocke 16
Henry E Larocke 8
Joseph C E Larocke 49
Mary Larocke 47
Mary E Larocke 19
Robert G Larocke 21
Annie Mc Carthy 42

Thanks Janice, think I do really need to know who Bernard's parents were to be able to tie any of this together.
Carol

Having found this, perhaps the Annie who married Robert Bogan is my Susannah's Sister!

1881 England Census
about Annie Laroche
Name: Annie Laroche
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Bermondsey, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 232 Fort Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: St James Bermondsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 29a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Laroche
Ernest Laroche 4
George Laroche 6
Joseph Laroche 39
Joseph Laroche 13
Mary Laroche 36
Mary Laroche 9
Robert Laroche 11
Susannah Laroche 15
Annie McCarthy 32
Caroline Sidery 40
Willie Sidery 3

Hi Carol,

Bernard Joseph Bogan is in the deaths index for 1984 in Bexley. You could get the cert and see who registered it.
Perhaps he is buried in Bexley; could be a gravestone.
Janice

A New Cathedral

Disaster came during the massive air-raids on London during World War 11. On 16 April 1941 an incendiary bomb set light to the roof and in minutes the cathedral was ablaze from end to end, to become the next day a smouldering ruin. For some years the Amigo Hall became the pro-cathedral.



In the early 1950s, under Bishop Cowderoy and Administrator Fr Bernard Bogan, plans for a new cathedral were completed. Romilly Bernard Craze was chosen as the architect. It was only when restoration work commenced in 1953 that the full extent of the fire damage became apparent. Only a few parts of the original building were sound enough to be incorporated in the reconstructed cathedral. In the reconstruction, a clerestory over the nave was introduced, vastly improving the lighting of the new building.

A grant came from the War Damage Commission, but extra money was needed as the plan went beyond mere restoration. Appeals were made far beyond the diocese, notably in Ireland and the USA. On 4 July 1958 the new building was solemnly opened by Bishop Cowderoy. The Lady Chapel was added in 1963 and the Baptistry in 1966. Click here for a plan of the new cathedral.

In 1994 the cathedral's centenary was marked by a weekend of celebrations involving the Papal Nuncio, the Archbishop of Southwark and more than 40 priests who had served the cathedral over the years.

Hi Carol,
Just a couple of thoughts.
Is there a newspaper article about the murder which might contain some family info?
Have you tried following the Bogan-La Roche couple forwards to see if you can find a living relative you could contact?
Good luck,
Janice not-too-far from Dulwich

any chance of a parish wedding record,,to compare the fathers names??

I have sent an email to St George's but they might only be able to give me a church record.

My susannah lived in Fort Road, Bermondsey and the Annie who married Robert Bogan above lived in St. James's Road Bermondsey so these two could be somehow related.

Hi Carol

Anyway you can apply to the Cathedral..they surley would have some kind of record on him, age ,status,,,,,they could have their own internal record archive collection.,,

My Father died in 1974, he told me he had a relative/uncle/cousin who was a Fr Bernard Bogan at St George's Cathedral, I have looked on google and found his name mentioned as joining in 1949 as an administrator!
I want to know how we are connected, I have found a Bernard Joseph Bogan born 1904 in Lewisham and this would tie in ok, have also found a Robert Bogan married a La roche in lewisham in 1919, Laroche was the name (single) of my dad's grandmother (Susannah Laroche b 1866) who bought him up fom age 2years, when my dad's mum was found murdered. Where to next!!
please any help would be great.