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Irenemac

Irenemac Report 14 Oct 2007 18:04

Can anyone explain to me why I can't find a birth record please? The person is Alfred John Winterson born Wilts 1849. Also I can't find him on the census prior to 1891, when he was in Liverpool. Nor can I find record of his marriage to Elizabeth Sanders. Is there likely to be a gap or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks
Irene

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 14 Oct 2007 18:13

Here is the marriage from Free BMD



Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)


Carran Mary Ellen Birkenhead 8a669
ION John Birkenhead 8a669
<<<Sanders Elizabeth Ellen Birkenhead 8a 669
<<<Winterson Alfred John Birkenhead 8a 669

Christine

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 14 Oct 2007 18:13

Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%)
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Sanders Elizabeth Ellen Birkenhead 8a 669
Winterson Alfred John Birkenhead 8a 669

Thelma

Thelma Report 14 Oct 2007 18:13

marriage
Elizabeth Ellen Sanders 1876 Jan-Feb-Mar Birkenhead (1861-1998) Cheshire, Merseyside
Alfred John Winterson 1876 Jan-Feb-Mar Birkenhead (1861-1998) Cheshire, Merseyside

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 14 Oct 2007 18:16

Obviously diddnt like his Alfred name!

1881 England Census
about John Winterson
Name: John Winterson
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth E.
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilperton, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Hulme
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 53 Thomas St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Checker Omnibus

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred J. Winterson ...looks like 2 months?
Edith L. Winterson 3
Elizabeth E. Winterson 25.. born: Liverpool, Lancashire
Fredrick E. Winterson 1
John Winterson 32
John William Winterson 4


°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 14 Oct 2007 18:22

1851 England Census
about John Winterson
Name: John Winterson
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's name: John
Mother's name: Ruth
Gender: Male
Where born: Marlbro, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Hilperton
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Melksham
Sub-registration district: Melksham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Winterson 6
John Winterson 32
John Winterson 3
Ruth Winterson 28


°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 14 Oct 2007 18:23

1861 England Census
about John Winterson
Name: John Winterson
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's name: Jno
Gender: Male
Where born: Hilperton, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Devizes St Mary
Town: Devizes
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Devizes
ED, institution, or vessel: 3f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Winterson 16
Jno Winterson 42
John Winterson 13
Selina Winterson 8

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 14 Oct 2007 18:25

1861 England Census
about John Winterson
Name: John Winterson
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Jno
Gender: Male
Where born: Hilperton, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Devizes St Mary
Town: Devizes
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Devizes
Sub-registration district: Devizes
ED, institution, or vessel: 3f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Winterson 16
Jno Winterson 42 ... born: Devizes, Wiltshire
John Winterson 13
Selina Winterson 8


Irenemac

Irenemac Report 14 Oct 2007 18:29

Thanks so much everyone. It's certainly them.
As you say " still lookin " he didn't care for the Alfred part of his name but it didn't stop him passing it on though.

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 14 Oct 2007 18:31

Ruths birthplace

born: Atworth, Wiltshire

I dont like my name geraldine but I diddnt pass it on! lol

Good luck and have fun

Gerri x