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MISSING LINK HERBERT NICHOLAS 1892-1947

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Avril

Avril Report 27 Oct 2007 15:50

HI ALL WONDERD IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME.BEEN GOING CRAZY HERE IVE BEEN TOLD BY MY RELATIONS THAT
WILLIAM NICHOLAS B 1856 BACKWELL GLOUCESTERSHIRE UK
WHO MARRIED
AMELIA BANE B 1859 WAS THE PARENTS OF MY GRANDDAD.
WELL I FOUND ON 1901 CENSUS SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT
HERBERT NICHOLAS AGED 8 WAS LIVING WITH HIS SISTER ETHEL NICHOLAS AGED 8 ALSO MARY A CARD 65
AS HEAD AND THEY WERE HER NIECE AND NEPHEW.BUTTTTTTTT I CANT GET THE CONNECTION SHOULD BE EASY PROBABLY LOOKING RIGHT AT ME BUT I CANT SEE IT.AM I MAD OR JUST PLAIN THICK.LOL.
MARY ANN HAS SEVERAL BROTHERS AND SISTERS I KNOW.
THANKS AVRIL

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Oct 2007 15:58

1901 census
Backwell St. Andrews, Long Ashton, Somerset
Mary A. Card, head, single, 65, dressmaker
Ethel Nicholas, niece, 12
Herbert Nicholas, nephew, 8

And right next door:
William Nicholas, head, 45 general labourer
Amelia, wife, 42
Mabel, dau, 16, school mistress
Harry, son, 14, general boy
Lillian, dau, 10
Alice, dau, 3
Margaret, dau, 1
All born Backwell.

Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2007 16:00

1901 for ref: and see below for who is living next door

1901 England Census
about Herbert Nicholas
Name: Herbert Nicholas
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Backwell, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Backwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Backwell St Andrew
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Long Ashton
Sub-registration district: Long Ashton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 84
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Card 65
Ethel Nicholas 12
Herbert Nicholas 8


1901 England Census
about William Nicholas
Name: William Nicholas
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Amelia
Gender: Male
Where born: Backwell, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Backwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Backwell St Andrew
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Long Ashton
Sub-registration district: Long Ashton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Nicholas 3
Amelia Nicholas 42
Henry Nicholas 14
Lilian Nicholas 10
Mabel Nicholas 16
Margeret Nicholas 1
William Nicholas 45

Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2007 16:01

Beat me to it, Margaret. Doesn't explain the connection though, does it.

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 27 Oct 2007 16:07

Avril already has the census for William from 1861-1901, I sent them to her last night.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Oct 2007 16:08

On the 1891 census the Nicholas family is living between the Bane family (presumably Amelia's parents) and Mary A. Chard, age 54, a dressmaker. Do you suppose she's Mary A. Card on the 1901 census?

Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2007 16:09

1881 and again below next door:

1881 England Census
about Mary A. Card
Name: Mary A. Card
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Backwell, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Backwell
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: Moorside
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Long Ashton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Henry J. Bane 19 - Nephew
John Bane 7 - Nephew
Mary A. Card 48

1881 England Census
about Ellener Bane
Name: Ellener Bane
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head (Wife) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Backwell, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Backwell
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: Moorside
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Wife Of G Lab

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Long Ashton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Bane 10
Ellen Bane 5
Ellener Bane 47
Emily Bane 16
Sarah A. Bane 14





Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2007 16:11

From above, could Ellener(Eleanor?) be Mary's sister and Herbert her great nephew?

Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2007 16:14

1841 Ellener and Mary Ann Card with their parents:

1841 England Census
about Mary Ann Card
Name: Mary Ann Card
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Backwell
Hundred: Hartcliffe and Bedminster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Long Ashton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charity Card 35
Ellender Card 9
George Card 16
James Card 10
John Card 35
John Card 20
Mary Ann Card 7
Matilda Card 14
Sarah Ann Card 3


MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Oct 2007 16:17

In 1881 she's a Card again with a Bane niece and nephew. She's living next door to a Bane family and next door but one to a Nicholas family.
1881 census
Moorside, Backwell, Somerset
Mary A. Card, head, 43, dressmaker
Henry T. Bane, nephew, 19, general labourer
John Bane, nephew, 7, scholar
All born Backwell.

Update, Oops, Potty's way ahead of me. I'd better quit!

Avril

Avril Report 27 Oct 2007 16:27

THANK YOU ALL BUT I STILL CANT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT.
AVRIL

KeithInFujairah

KeithInFujairah Report 27 Oct 2007 16:41

Heres the answer, Potty was right Ellenor is the sister of Mary A and married James Bane

Name: Ellener Card
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bedminster
County: Gloucestershire, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 1159

James Bane 1852 Jul-Aug-Sep Bedminster Gloucestershire, Somerset

Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2007 16:51

And Ellener Bane (nee Card) is the mother of Emily Bane who married William Nicholas and is the mother of Herbert, who in 1901 is living next door with his great aunt Mary Ann Card. They probably couldn't work out the relationship and just put nephew.

Avril

Avril Report 27 Oct 2007 16:53

A BIG THANKS TO YOU ALL.
MY WORRYS AND WONDERING OF ALL THESE YEARS SOLVED IN NO TIME .IM VERY VERY PLEASED AND VERY VERY GRATEFUL.
AVRIL