Genealogy Chat

hi was just wandering if anyone out there knew about the census reports i have one from 1891 and all the family are on it, then at bottom there is 2 girls names one age 19yrs and one age22 years they have same surname as one another so i presume they are sisters but who could they be to family anyone any ideas, would be appreciated..thanks..joanne...

thanks tich, its strange to think my family had such people especially when most died of tb ive often visualised poverty when ive thought right back..but hey anythings possible i guess!! thanks again for your help its appreciated, kind regards ..

if you look at the actual image if often tells you if they are relations or servants etc

its likely they were lodgers or boarders and possibly mean the family squeezed into a smaller number of room, in order to generate income, especially if they were not so well to do.

hi reggie, whitenancy thanks for you advice - ive not got actual image a very kind soul on GR found it and just typed up names, area and ages so have not actually seen proper document, is there an easy way of doing this??

thanks minnie i could imagine that more to be true, it was the west derby area of liverpool im not sure what the area was like at time but im sure i have read somewhere there was a lot of death by comsumption/tb in liverpool back then, thanks for your time,

I can look at the images for you if you want and email them to you Pm me with your email address

thanks whitenancy, i have sent it...

Joane, have you not got ancestry? If not take the 3 day free trial - no card details needed and then you can check all the census info yourself and look at the images of the documents. Just enter the following address in your address panel:

http://landing.ancestry.com/popularmedia/hs1.aspx?landingpage=3DF_nc&o_iid=32618&o_lid=32618&o_it=32845


You need to look at the image every time as it can give different info to the transcription. In this case these girls may have been renting a room in the same house - not related at all to your lot - just paying rent to the same landlord - you would be able to see that info from the census image and the lines which enumerators struck through to show a different household or part of a house.

heather - i have it and have tried to look at census but a red page comes up with a padlock on saying basically i need to pay to view?? unless im doing something wrong?

Put the details here and someone will check it for you and let you know what relationship they are to the family.

Jill

thanks for the help..names are...
esther hill 19 years
phoebe hill 22 years
living in my great great granparents home at 1891 who are -
elizabeth and james hignett
liverpool
ecclesiastical parish-st matthew
many many thanks......

thanks very much, i appreciate help so much.
the census is in 1891 and has all the children named on it do you think there would be any way of finding out if there was more childen born to walter/elizabeth after this date?
kind regards..joanne

Hi Joanne will look and see if I can find them on the 1901 census.

Here they are mistranscribed.

Name: James Hignell
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkdale
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 86 Evelyn Street

Occupation: Carter on Road

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Kirkdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Ellis 19 Domestic servant
Ann Hignell 5
Arthur Hignell 3
Charles Hignell 8
Elizabeth Hignell 40
Elizabeth Hignell 18
Ernest Hignell 14
James Hignell 41
John Hignell 12
Louisa Hignell 21
Phoebe Hignell 10
Walter Hignell 16
George Hislop 19 Boarder.

Looks like a couple more children born between census.

If you would like the image, pm me your e-mail address and will send to you. Got to go out, but will send on return.

Thanks ever so much keith, i will send email would love the image will pm you email, best wishes joanne

Could this be Phoebe and Esther in 1881

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James HILL Head M Male 60 Ellison Church, Stafford, England Coal Dealer
Mary HILL Wife M Female 40 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Helen HILL Daur U Female 16 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary E. HILL Daur U Female 14 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Phoebe HILL Daur U Female 13 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James HILL Son U Male 11 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Esther HILL Daur U Female 9 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John HILL Son U Male 7 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Lucy HILL Daur U Female 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Edith D. HILL Daur U Female 1 Liverpool, Lancashire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 33/5 Limekiln Lane
Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341861
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3596 / 34
Page Number 1