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I was wondering if there was a kind person out there who could point me in the right direction or lend me a helping hand.

I am trying to trace passenger lists for William Singleton b1828, his wife Phoebe (possibly spelt Phebe) b1828 and their children Mary Ellen b1861, Sarah Alice b1854 and William Orson b1859.

They settled in Utah and I am having trouble finding them on any lists, does anyone know where they could have sailed from and to. They moved from the Derbyshire area between 1861 and 1863 but this is rough given to the dobs of the last child born in England and the first born in USA.

Thank you in advance

Charlotte

Note: After entering the following information, I found something that might suggest I didn't find the correct Sarah Alice Singleton. Was she born in Bristol, Gloucester? If not, the following may not be her.)

Can't find them yet, but found a possible date of their arrival (sometimes the dates are incorrect):

Millennium File
Name: Sarah Alice Singleton
Spouse: John Russell Emanuel Manning
Birth Date: 6 May 1854
Birth City: Marlpool
Birth County: Drbys
Birth Country: England
Death Date: 24 Dec 1931
Death City: Logan
Death County: Cache
Death State: Utah
Death Country: USA
Parents: , Phoebe Webster
Children: Mary Ellen Manning
William John Russell Manning
Charles Emaunuel Manning

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Sarah Manning
Home in 1900: Syracuse, Davis, Utah
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Birthplace: England
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Spouse's name: Emanuel
Race: White
Immigration Year: 1862
Household Members:
Name Age
Emanuel Manning 45
Sarah Manning 45
William J Manning 21
Charles E Manning 19
Alice P Manning 17
Arthur Manning 14
Sarah E Manning 12
Mary E Manning 7
Myrtle Manning 5

Another census with 1862 date:
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Sarah A Manning
Age in 1910: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's name: Emanuel J
Home in 1910: South Hooper, Davis, Utah
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Year of Immigration: 1862
Household Members:
Name Age
Emanuel J Manning 55
Sarah A Manning 54
Arthur Manning 24
Sarah E Manning 22
Mary E Manning 19
Myrtle Manning 15
Samuel Neal 37
Alice Neal 27
John M Neal 6
Bessie Neal 3
Jessie Neal 3

In case you are interested in the Manning family
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~watkinsbrown/1653.htm
which includes the Manning voyage to America and their time in Utah and a photograph of John Russell Manning, Sarah Alice's father-in-law.

"John married Sarah Alice Singleton on 13 Jan 1878 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, USA. (Sarah Alice Singleton was born circa 1856 in Bristol , Gloucester, England, UK and died on 7 Jan 1917 in West Point, Davis, Utah, USA.)"

On Roostweb:
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi
# Name: Sarah Alice SINGLETON
# Given Name: Sarah Alice
# Surname: Singleton 1 2
# Sex: F
# Birth: 6 May 1854 in Heanor, Derbyshire, England
# Death: 24 Dec 1931 in Logan, Cache, Utah, USA
# Burial: 27 Dec 1931 West Point, Davis, Utah, USA
# Emigration: 23 Apr 1862 Liverpool, , England
# BLES: Jun 1854 West Point, Davis, Utah, USA
# Census: 28 Jun 1870 Slaterville, Weber, Utah, USA

Have you traced the Webster family back fairly far? The person posting the information on Rootsweb supposedly traces several of Sarah Alice's lines quite far.

Found under William Singleton (Rootsweb):
# Name: William SINGLETON
# Sex: M
# Birth: 28 Jun 1828 in Marlpool, Heanor, Derbyshire, England
# Christening: 28 Jun 1837 Marlpool, Heanor, Derbyshire, England
# Death: 19 Aug 1906 in Slaterville, Weber, Utah, USA
# Burial: 22 Aug 1906 Ogden, Weber, Utah, USA...

# Emigration: 23 Apr 1862 Liverpool, , England
# Emigration: 29 Jul 1862 Florence, , Nebraska, USA
# Note: Captain Joseph Horne's Company
# Census: 28 Jun 1870 Slaterville, Weber, Utah, USA

Rootsweb, Phebe:
# Emigration: 23 Apr 1862 , , England
# Note: John J. Boyd sailing vessell

If all of the above does turn out to be your Singleton's, there is a description of the 29 July Florence trip across America "To Utah":
http://heritage.uen.org/companies/Wcbb3f4d741454.htm

http://www.xmission.com/~nelsonb/company.htm
570 people and 52 wagons, reached Utah 1 October 1862

http://www.lds.org/churchhistory/library/pioneercompanysearch/0,15773,3966-1-2068,00.html
Mormon Pioneer Overland Travel, 1847–1868
You searched for
Company Horne ** Joseph Horne Company (1862)
Year All Years...
Surname singleton

Search results

(The number shown in parentheses next to each name is the age of the pioneer at the time of the journey.)

Joseph Horne Company (1862)
Singleton, Mary Ellen (1)
Singleton, Sarah Alice (8)
Singleton, William (34)

If this is the correct family, I'm sure there is more to be found using google, or something similar.

Thank you ever so much that does look like the correct one. My interest is in the Singletons and what happened after William and Phoebe left England. I will have a proper look at all the information and suggested websites and update accordingly.

Charlotte, would you want information from American census records?

PS I've tried everything I can think of - cannot see them arriving in America.

Think I will have to have a look at the census records which I will do from work. Spent so long trying to find them leaving England and arriving in America that I think I went screen blind!

Will also look through what you have managed to find at work today also.

Thank you so much

Thank you again, it is indeed the right family!