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1861 census... my relatives..

Edward Rapley
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cobham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Denton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Elizabeth Rapley 7
Edward Rapley 36
Eliza Maria Rapley 2
John Rapley 5
Susannah Rapley 35

Living in the same house as:

Name: John Rapley
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Cobham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Denton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: North Aylesford
Sub-registration district: Northfleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Cate Celena Rapley 3
Elizabeth Agnes Rapley 16
Francis Rapley 5
Jessie Rapley 19
John Rapley 43
John Affred Rapley 7
Mary Ann Rapley 42
Richard Arther Rapley 17

I would presume Edward and John are brothers but cant find any proof??

I imagine you would need to get the Birth certs. of both to be sure

BVRI has:
John Rapley born 10 Feb.1818, chr. 17 May 1818
Edward Rapley born 5 Apr.1824, chr. 4 May 1824
Both in Cobham, Kent with parents Michael & Sarah.
There's also a George and William.
Margaret

Thats brilliant, whats BVRI??

Also on BVRI in Cobham:

John Rapley married Mary Ann Dalton, 2 May 1841. Husband's father Michael Rapley. Wife's father Robert Dalton.

Edward Rapley married Susanna Scotchmur, 2 Aug.1845. Husband's father Michael Rapley. Wife's father John Scotchmur.

BVRI is British Vital Records Index, a set of 16 cd's that you purchase from LDS Church through the Familysearch site. They cover christenings and marriages extracted from parish records, usually those not covered on Familysearch although there is some overlap. You have to be lucky to find your family on them. I've never been able to find one of mine. Guess you're one of the lucky ones!
Margaret

Margaret, is it just data or is there copies of original records? I would be so grateful if I could also have birth and cristening dates for George and William if possible. Also, how far back does it go? Is there any info on Michael Rapley and John Scotchmur??

They're just data, Raych, not originals.
George Rapley born 1 Jul.1821, chr. 2 Sep.1821
William Rapley born 5 Mar.1828, chr. 15 Mar.1828
Both in Cobham with parents Michael & Sarah.

There's also 3 children of John & Mary Ann between 1842-45.
3 children of Edward & Susanna between 1847-53.
3 more of John & Mary Ann between 1858-65.
The rest are children of Richard Arthur & Matilda between 1871-80.
Do you want any of them?

No birth of Michael Rapley anywhere in England.

Off to look for Scotchmurs.
Margaret

Where do Richard and Matilda fit into things? Is Richard son of Michael too?? I presume the kids of Edward and John are the ones above, but it would be good to have their dates of birth rather than relying on guessing from census'. Is BVRI transcribed records, so more reliable than IGI?

Thanks for your help with this, so good of you!!

Only 2 Scotchmur births in England, 1875 and 1877, both in Hoo, Kent, daughters of Martin & Ellen.

Sorry forgot to answer previous question. Years of coverage differ for each locality. For Cobham it says:
FHL# 1473678 1661-1884 3302 notes
See FHL Catalogue 1718-1812 504 notes
FHL# 1469335 1813-1879 934 notes
(Not sure what all that means)

Only Scotchmur marriage other than the Edward & Susanna:
John Scotchmur married Susan Turner 9 April 1817, Frindsbury, Kent. (Susanna's parents?)

No problem, Raych, I love doing look-ups.
However you are holding me back from going to visit my 88 yr. old mother-in-law in the Retirement Home. She has dementia, so you can imagine how I'm looking forward to the visit. Thanks for holding me back! (Aren't I awful?)

3 chidren of John & Mary Ann:
Ann born 19 Mar.1842, chr. 10 Apr.1842
Richard Arthur chr. 17 Sep.1843
Elizabeth Agnes born 21 Mar.1845, chr. 27 Apr.1845

3 children of Edward & Susan/Susanna
William born 9 Mar.1847, chr. 11 Apr.1847
George chr. 24 Nov.1850
Agnes Elizabeth born 6 Sep.1853, chr. 13 Nov.1853

3 more John & Mary Ann:
Kate Selina born 9 Feb.1858, chr. 28 Jun.1863
Charles Robert born 2 Jun.1863, chr. 28 Jun.1863
Effield Mary born 6 Mar. 1865, chr. 28 May 1865

Children of Richard Arthur & Matilda (He's evidently a son of John & Mary Ann)
Arthur born 13 Mar.1871, chr. 30 Apr.1871
Emma chr. 30 Mar.1873
William born 5 Jun.1875, chr. 25 Jul.1875
Irving Amos chr. 7 Apr.1878
Ernest chr. 3 Oct. 1880

Now gotta go visit MIL.
Margaret

Thanks ever so much!! Ive just found something interesting, I did a search for the surname Scotchmur on ancestry, there are loads and loads of births in Hoo district, Kent.. I would put money on these being decendents of Susans dads brothers just need to find a way to connect them now, lol.