Genealogy Chat

Thank you everyone for spending sometime on this

Tracey...

POTTY- i have sent you two e-mails to your account...

Trac

Thanks Lindy... for your time... i just want to find out if my aunt is still alive and if get in touch with her... if alive she would be 82 now... which is possible as i have some of her sisters in their late 70's and early 80's and my mum who is only 67 would love to find her...

Again thank you
Trac

Tracey,

I can't find all the births you mention on Family Search but the ones I can find are all submitted ones (including Dorothy), which are very often wrong as quite often they are not taken from official records, so I would discount them.

Here is the family in 1901:
about William J Orme
Name: William J Orme
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Fannie A
Gender: Male
Where born: Finchley, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Hendon
Ecclesiastical parish: Childs Hill All Saints
Town: Childs Hill
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Hendon
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
Alice S Orme 16
Celia J Orme 12
Ethel M Orme 2
Fannie A Orme 30
Harriet E Orme 7
Henry J Orme 14
John H Orme 1
William Orme 45 - Gardener, born Ireland
William J Orme 10

This is the only Dorothy Orme b c1893 Derby:
1901 England Census
about Dorothy Orme
Name: Dorothy Orme
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Florence
Gender: Female
Where born: Derby, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 91
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Orme 31
Dorothy Orme 7
Florence Orme 32

This is her birth registration:
Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
Orme Dorothty Edith Derby 7b 565

and this is your Harriet's birth registration:

Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
Orme Harriet Elizabeth Barnet 3a 283

Hi, Tracy,

I had a look at familysearch. Someone has added the details about Dorothy Edith Orme to the lists. They may not have known that the family came from London.

I can't find Harriet's birth, at all, in familysearch to compare. It may be that her adoptive parents didn't like the name 'Harriet' and called her Dorothy and this got mixed up through the passage of time.

I am sure that Dorothy is the same family, because whoever entered the details, also entered Alice Susan and Cecelia Jane, but no Henry, William, Harriet or Mary Ann.

If you enter Dorothy Orme, 1893, Derby and search. Then click on her name to see her parents and then click on "family", there are only three girls named.

Sorry, this is not too helpful.

All the best in your search.
Lindy.

Potty...
i don't have any Certificates of my Grandad's siblings...
but i do have where they were from>>>Mary Ann, Alice Susan, Henry James Celia all from ISLEWORTH,MIDDLESEX, William frrom FINCHLEY, MIDDLESEX and Harriet from BARNET... Then i found this Dorothy Edith from Derby... see where i am totally confused...

i'm off out now too footy training wont be back till well after 8pm will pick up your reply then...
Thanks again for your time
Tracey

potty...sorry i ment on family search

First of all, do you have any of the birth certs? Where were the other children born?

I am not sure what you mean by "on free bmd it lists the same parents...." - parents full names aren't given on freebmd and the mother's maiden name is only given after 1911.

I wouldn't think it possible for sisters to be born in different areas in the same quarter, unless they were twins and were born days apart with mother moving from one area to another but not from Barnet to Derby!

I'm at the moment researching my Grandad's Siblings... As a family story goes that my grandad gave one of his Daughters to a Sister of his and was taken to America... the daughter is a Molly Kathleen Orme 07/07/1925 the list i have for his siblings are Mary Ann 1882, Alice Susan c1885, Henry James c1885, Celia Jane c1889, William John 1891(my grandad - Molly's dad), Harriet c1893... but having another look i have found a Dorothy Edith Orme born in the same quarter as Harriet but in Derby not Barnet where Harriet was born... on family search it lists the same parents names William Orme and Mary Ann Frith and Dorothy's death is in Florida, U.S.A....Now the interesting bit is that my mum only knew of her aunt in America as AUNT DOLLY...

Does anyone know how i can confirm these details... and if Harriet and Dorothy are sisters how come one was born in Derby and one in Barnet area... I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED NOW...

All the best, a confused Tracey