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Can't find after 1851....

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Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 10 Dec 2007 07:24

I begin to wonder if there is a page missing in 1861 - too many of this fami;ly are missing in 1861......

Peter

Researching:
Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Dec 2007 04:28

Can't find them on the 1861 Census



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Dec 2007 04:12

Sarah Elizabeth's marriage registration

Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)

ELLIS Ann Newington 4 337
HATTLEY Henry Newington 4 337
LEACH Mary Ann Newington 4 337
>>>>>NICOLL Richard Newington 4 337
PEACOCK Joseph Charles Newington 4 337
>>>>>ROBERTS Sarah Elizabeth Newington 4 337
STUART Sophia Newington 4 337


Newington is in Surrey


sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 10 Dec 2007 00:46

Keep going

Henry also had a dau Sarah Elizabeth (1820) who is my wife's gggrandmother).
I am now trying to follow Sarah's siblings.

Can't find what happened to Laura.

Sarah married a Richard Nic(h)o(l)l and had a dau Phyllis Eliza. The family sailed to New Zealand in June 1861 from Gravesend but can't find them in the 1861 census....

Peter

Researching:
Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Dec 2007 00:29

gawd,


that 1861 census reference that Michael found is a mess!!!

The transcriber has apparently lumped together ALL the households in Parry Place, Plumstead into one listing!

I've looked at 4 pages, all are separate households with an average of 5 or 6 people per house ........ but I cannot find the 3 Roberts shown on the record!!

Just for interests' sake, here is the listing of names from the Record

Name Age
Mary Ann Calvin 27
Elizh Church 45
Wm Church 18
Thos Clapton 22
Hugh Cronen 20
Susan Cronen 27
Winfred Cronen 5
John Evans 10
Emma Hammond 32
Saml Hardy 55
Elizh Harrison 30
John Harrison 38
John Harrison 11
Charlotte Marshall 33
Frank Marshall 2
Fredk Marshall 4
Harriett Marshall 6
Wm Marshall 53
Wm Marshall 3 Mo
Charlotte Mayben 30
Jane Mayben 66
Nicholas Mayben 63
Stephen Mayben 22
Elizh Reed 24
James Reed 30
Wm J Reed 9 Mo
------>Harriett Roberts 19 b.ca 1852, Bristol, Lodger
------>John Roberts 21 b.ca 1840, Backing (sic), Essex, Lodger
------>Wm Jas Roberts 12 b.ca 1849, Backing (sic), Essex, Visitor
James Scott 77
John Sheelan 30
Robt Wren 53



OK ..... found them!!!

John and Harriet are Married, lodging with the Maybens at 10 Parry Place, and Wm Jas is apparently visiting them


I cannot make out John's occupation. It looks like P----ioner by -----alling



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 10 Dec 2007 00:03

Is this Henry and Elizabeth in 1841?


Do you have this?


about Henry Roberts
Name: Henry Roberts
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Barking
Hundred: Becontree
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Barking Town
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Roberts 4
Eliza Roberts 41
Eliza Roberts 8
Henry Roberts 47 Tailor
John Roberts 2
Phillis Roberts 10
Thomas Roberts 17 Tailor


Address:- Reform Place


In 1851, they are living at Trafalgar Place, and William is a Tailor



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 9 Dec 2007 22:35

No - Henry mar Elizabeth Mockett (1800 Sheerness)(from dau Sarah's birth cert).

Peter

Researching:
Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington

Brenda

Brenda Report 9 Dec 2007 22:29

Just in case this is useful:

Ann Rebecca Roberts bn 23 July 1826,
christened 20 Aug 1826, St Mathew, Bethnal Green

Parents: Henry & Elizabeth Roberts

There's also a marriage between Henry Roberts and Elizabeth Ford on 03 Nov 1824, St Giles, Cripplegate, which may or may not be your folks!

All IGI, all extracted records.

Brenda

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 9 Dec 2007 22:16

Thanks Brenda - looks like a good lead.....
William James looks a nightmare - he seems to move to Northampton with very inconsistent ages!!..and two wives!

Peter

Researching:
Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington

Brenda

Brenda Report 9 Dec 2007 22:11

The IGI has an extracted christening as follows:

Laura Phillis Roberts bn 11 Feb 1849
christened 23 June 1863 St Mary, Battersea

Parents: Anne Rebecca Roberts. No father listed.

Brenda

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 9 Dec 2007 22:09

Reggie
William b City of London
Others Barking Essex except Laura, b Middlesex

Researching:
Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Dec 2007 21:46

Please tell us the birthplaces for each of the people you are trying to locate.

Their place of abode in 1851 will not help to search for them in 1861..........

Reg

Peterkinz

Peterkinz Report 9 Dec 2007 21:32

In 1851 Henry Roberts 57, wife Elizabeth 51 and children Eliza 17, John 11 and Charles 9 are living in Barking, Essex. Also present are grandchildren William J and Lora (Laura ) P Roberts (3 and 2 respectively).

Laura looks like the Laura Phillis Birch Roberts b 1849 St James.

I am having trouble finding their parents (without at the moment buying Laura’s BC

Any ideas??

Peter

Researching:
Nurse of Brightlingsea, Spalton of Bottesford, Williams of Tenby, Lammiman of Kensington