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Hi

Could anyone tell me are there any more details from 1841 on other sites.......eg Findmypast...... than the ones given on Ancestry, and is it possible to find entries for all years on other sites that Ancestry don`t seem to have, the problem being I have various rellies who are "missing" from certain census`s, and I wondered if I`d be able to find them elsewhere? I am aware that some census papers were ruined/destroyed at some point, but am not sure if this would include my "missing" people.

Thanks in advance
Nicky

Hi Nicky,

If you post some names I can have a look on Find my Past for you.

Linda

The 1841 census on other sites wont hold any more information, the information recorded was very limited.
With regard to "missing" relatives, it could be transcription error and they may be on other sites, or they may actually be missed from the pages or the pages actually damaged.

Linda ,

Thats very kind of you....thank you ...... here goes:

Philadelphia Copper born c1886 in Kent probably Brenchley. Year of birth based on details on 1841 census, think I have her death in 1855, so I can`t find her on 1851. In 1841 she is listed with husband/brother? William born c1876, they are in Brenchley at that time.


Charles Furniss/Furness missing in 1851, he was born in Derby Derbyshire 1827 and married Elizabeth Mary ann Quick in 1848 in Liverpool. In 1861 he is in Cheadle Moseley in cheshire with wife Elizabeth and sister Jane.... I have him in all other census.

William Bartlett born c1807 St Margarets Westminster can`t find him in 1841..... he wasn`t married then and the family home was Palace Street Westminster, both his parents died before 1841. I have him in all other censuss.

Theres 3 to be getting on with.... thank you so much for your kind offer.

Nicky

Keith,
So as I thought the info given was very limited, its sooooooo.......... frustrating.

Linda has kindly offered to look on findmypast for me, so fingers crossed she comes up with something.

Nicky

Hi Nicky,

Just off to have a look for you

Linda

1851 isn't on FMP but I found Philadelphia on Ancestry.
Lovely bit of mistranscription

Off to have a look for the others

Name: Phillidelphein Capper
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Relation: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Brenchley, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Brenchley
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
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Household schedule number: 65
Household Members: Name Age
Phillidelphein Capper 70
Alfred Eagles 2
Charlotte Eagles 10
Emma Eagles 7
James Eagles 38
Sophia Eagles 34


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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1615; Folio: 406; Page: 17; GSU roll: 193516.



Here is the marriage of her daughter Sophia to James Eagles

Marriages Jun 1839 (>99%)
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COPPER Sophia Tunbridge 5 525
CROWHURST Sarah Tonbridge 5 525
EAGLES James Tunbridge 5 525
ROBBERTS Edward Tonbridge 5 525


Just going to look for the others

Linda

Linda,

Thanks for that, youv`e given me another member of the Copper clan in Sophia...... gradually pieceing them all together, I couldn`t find Philadelpia at all......love the transcribing.....lol

thanks again
Nicky

Still looking for the others

Linda

Did you see just above Philadelphia on 1841 another family named Copper?

Looks like it could be their son?







1841 census - household transcription
Person: COPPER, Phillip
Address: Crittenden, Brenchley


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Name Sex Age Profession/Occupation Where Born Original
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COPPER, William M 40 Kent VIEW
COPPER, Ann F 40 Kent VIEW
COPPER, William M 15 Kent VIEW
COPPER, Jesse M 13 Kent VIEW
COPPER, Eli M 11 Kent VIEW
COPPER, Obed M 9 Kent VIEW
COPPER, Phillip M 7 Kent VIEW
COPPER, Emma F 5 Kent VIEW
COPPER, Albert M 1 Kent VIEW


Linda

Linda,
Yes I have the above family...Philip is my gr gr grandfather, and then William is his father and i`m then trying to find out if Philadelphia and William are Williams parents, the dates seem to be tying in....these records pre 1837 are such a pain arn`t they.....I`ve checked the LDS site tonight and they have Brenchley records to order in to veiw, so am hopefully going to my local office tommorow.....hoping its not shut for a xmas as its only open for 2 hours 3 times a week. I have Philip and all his family on all census. I have williams death record in 1849 and now I know Philadelphia is recorded as a Widow in 1851 of an Ag Lab. I`m sure i`m on the correct trail, will be ordering both death certs. to confirm, hopefully one of their children will be the informant to tie it all in.









thanks for letting me know anyway.
Nicky

Good Luck,

I'll have another look for the others tomorrow

Linda

Nicky, when you get back another generation keep in mind that the BVRI discs have coverage of Brenchley, Kent and there are a lot of Coppers. Unfortunately the coverage ends in 1771 for christenings and 1754 for marriages.
I'd be happy to do look-ups, just give a shout.
Margaret

Linda and Margaret,

Thank you so much for your kind offers of help, I have been on Familysearch .org tonight armed with my new info, but it keeps cutting out when I click on the names to get further info......have manged to print some of it off though.

Thanks again

Nicky