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Can anyone please look up a departure to America for me ??.

Passenger is Peter Sinclair b.1839 in Orphir, Orkney, I have him on the 1871 census with his wife Margaret,children William b 1860, Margaret b 1867, I dont know if there were any more children, I have 1 son born in Brooklyn in 1874, they are back home again by 1878, because I found another child born here.

It would be great to get info on where he left from and where he arrived etc.

Thanks
Sandra x

hi i think this may be them in 1891

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1891 Scotland Census
about Peter Sinclair
Name: Peter Sinclair
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Orphir, Orkney
Registration Number: 30
Registration district: Stromness
Civil Parish: Stromness
County: Orkney
Address: Graham Place
Occupation: Fisherman
ED: 6
Page: 21 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 113
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1891_6
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Sinclair 11
James Sinclair 17
John Sinclair 14
Margaret Sinclair 54
Peter Sinclair 52


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Thanks Jan, that is them, I have them on the 1871 and 1881 census, but their son born in 1874 called James was born in Brooklyn New York, they then have a child in Orkney in 1878, so they didnt stay long in the USA, it would be nice just to know where they left from and where the arrived.
thanks again for your help.
Regards
Sandra x

Hi Sandra,

Not sure, could be a possibility on Castle Garden website?

http://www.castlegarden.org/

Name: Peter Sinclair
Age: 28 years
Occupation: Seaman
Sex: M
Arrived: 10th June, 1872
Origin: Great Britain
Ship: EUROPA

Name: Margaret Sinclair
Age: 30 years
Occupation: Unknown
Sex: F
Arrived: 10th June, 1872
Origin: Great Britain
Ship: EUROPA

Name: William Sinclair
Age: 12 years
Occupation: Youngster
Sex: M
Arrived: 10th June, 1872
Origin: Great Britain
Ship: EUROPA

I cannot find a Margaret born around 1867 but there is a Mary Jane listed at 5 years.

bye Helen

Sandra, this might be them though the ages are out by about 5 years (though people did lie about their ages as you know). They are aboard the Europa from Glasgow to New York arrival 10th of June 1872.

"Peter Sinclair, 28, Seaman, Margaret Sinclair 30, William 12 and Mary Jean 5."

If you think this may be them I can PM you the image.

The IGI has a Margaret Jane SINCLAIR born 15/7/1866, Stromness to Peter SINCLAIR and Margaret GRAY. On re-examining the immigration image it could well be "Marg. Jane" not "Mary Jean"; the age of 5 also fits the birth date. Also IGI gives William's birth as 1/10/1859 which fits the age of 14.

I have sent you my email so that I can forward the image to you.

Thanks Helen and Alastair, thats great news for me, it never ceases to amaze me the knowledge people on this site have, and even more amazing is how helpful everyone is.

kindest Regards
Sandra x

Hi Sandra.

When you get the image from Alistair further up the page is.......... Is(?) Sinclair 57 & Margaret Sinclair 66.
Possible parents?


Malcolm.

hi sandra the children on the census were born in new york so it is them...

jan

Hi, Jan, do you know if only James was born in the USA, I thought the 2 children after him were born in Orkney.

Regards
Sandra x

Hi Malcolm, thanks for pointing that out, I will now look and see if the other Sinclair could be Peter's father.

Thanks again.

Regards

Sandra