Genealogy Chat

Hello All,
I thought I had exhausted all avenues as I could come up with nothing new. That's what I like about asking. People look at the problem differently and then come up with all the variables above.
Thanks to all of you for your responses.
Will now take a look through your replies.
Bye
Paul

George and Emma are living on Princes Street, Madeley in 1881. He is a confectioner.

They also have a daughter Sarah Ann, aged 6, b. Madeley.

Looks like that Emma married George Allen

1871 - Madeley
George Allen 34 Head Miner b. Cheshire Audlem
Emma Allen 29 Wife b. Madeley
William Allen 4 Son b. Madeley

There is an Audley in Cheshire, I think - could be mistranslated

An Emma Crippen married in the Mar qtr 1864 in Madeley reg dist - one groom missing on the page

Edmund Boycott 1864 Jan-Feb-Mar
Emma Crippin 1864 Jan-Feb-Mar
Ellen Welch 1864 Jan-Feb-Mar

1851 census
address - Long Wood, Eaton, Constantine, Salop

John Crippin 46 Labourer b. Eaton Constantine
Elizabeth Crippin 41 b. Leighton, Salop
Harriet Crippin 11 b. Leighton, Salop
Emma Crippin 7 b. Leighton, Salop
William Harby Lodger 30 Labourer b. Leighton, Salop
William Isby Lodger 25 Labourer b. Leighton, Salop

Whilst Elizabeth is listed as a widow in 1871 I wonder if the below is her husband in the workhouse at Brockholes
He is listed as married

1871

Name: John Crippen
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Not Known

Civil Parish: Madeley
Ecclesiastical parish: Ironbridge
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Madeley
Sub-registration district: Madeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69

Think this may be the grandma in 1861

1861 - Kirkless Row, Madeley

John Crippen Head 56 Ag Lab
Elizabeth Crippen Wife 51 Ag lab wife
Thomas Crippen Son Unm 24 Ag Lab
Harriet Crippen Daur Unm 21 Dress maker
Amelia Crippen Daur Unm 18 Assistant Dress maker

All born in Leighton except John who was born in Eaton Constanton (?), Salop.

Perhaps Mary Ann could be the illegitimate child of one of the girls?

I can't see Mary Ann in 1881 but think this could be her grandmother in 1861

Presumably Mary Ann was the child of one of her daughter's but you would need her birth cert/marraige cert to confirm it

1871

Name: Elizabeth Crippin
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Leighton, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Madeley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Madeley
Sub-registration district: Madeley
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 245
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Crippin 18
Elizabeth Crippin 51
Harriet Crippin 21
John Crippin 56
Thomas Crippin 24

Found this - don't know if it's significant yet . . .

1871 - Severn Terrace, Madeley
Thomas Crippen 55 Head Officer of Inland Revenue b. Kent Canterbury
Mary Crippen 70 Wife b. Bedfordshire Bedford
Ellen Sawall (sp?) 18 Niece b. London Middlesex
Dinah Miles 16 Serv General Servant

Hi,
I have a birth for Mary Ann Crippen

Births Jun 1862
CRIPPEN Mary Ann Madeley 6a 6_6

Marriage
Marriages Dec 1883
CRIPPIN Mary Ann Madeley 6a 1285
JONES John Madeley 6a 1285
MERRICK Rose Ann Madeley 6a 1285
Wright William Henry Madeley 6a 1285

1871 Census living with grandmother, Elizabeth Crippen, 61 yrs, Wid, Lodger, Garnston, Shropshire
RG10; Piece: 2757; Folio: 58; Page: 17

1881 - Cannot find her?

Any help on finding parents or siblings would be appreciated.
Thanks
Paul