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Oh, you bully, you! :-))))

Glad he's better, and hope this is the wake-up call he may need. You just don't mess around with diabetes.

Give him our regards, won't you. Ta!
x

Janey - have sent you a PM.

Lump on his head? I'd give him lump on his head for the scare he has given you!!

When will people realise that their health is their responsibility.... and that they have a responsibility to others as well... believe me, I know... I am the one with a bit of a problem in our household, and I know how badly my problem has affected my OH.... so if he wants me to wrap up in cotton wool and eat a very restricted diet, I will do so... just so I don't worry him too much more than necessary (late and brain not engaged, think I have spelt that incorrectly!) Least I can do!!

I have a spare piece of 2x4 if you need it... I was keeping it for marauding teenage lads when my 3 year old Princess reaches *THAT* age in about 10 years.... British oak and as sturdy as it comes..... your need is greater!!

Love and loads of (((((((((((hugs))))))))))))

Daff xxxx

glad to hear himself is home

..... and hope that the lump in his head goes down soon, and the flea in his ear flits away as well!


shall I keep the cedar 2x4 in case you need it in future??


Although, like Daff, I'm the one with problems in our house and I really would not like to have a 2x4 within easy reach of my OH for times when he gets mad at me!!!


sylvia ~~~~

Hi Janey

Sorry to hear about your problems, I think a 4x4 would be a good idea! (not a 2x4)

I'm a type II diabetic, I'm pretty good but I am struggling to keep my readings below 8, if mine go over 10, I'm into worry level!

I'm now lactose intollerent as well, my diet is so restrictive, I can understand why some can't be bothered. There's not much left to eat, OH is so fed up with me he says he won't take me out for meals anymore.

You've got to make your OH see sense, with diabeties with poor management the nerve endings go on the extremities, ie hands, feet and in men, somewhere else!

He's got to realise this is his life he's messing with!

(((((Hugs)))))) for you, I hope you both get through this

Dee x

Well I suppose if he is home it is less dashing about for you to the hospital but still a big worry and work for you, I don't suppose him constantly sprawled on the sofa has helped, he needs to get up and exercise more perhaps.
Hope things work out that he is more diligent of his health needs and you can refrain from using the 2x4 Janey, you previous disappearance was bad enough, don't want to hear you have been locked up lol
take care
Lizxx

Here I am back - we both spent yesterday sprawling on the chesterfield. ;)

Katzchen -- I know how it must feel to be nagged (well, I don't, but I can imagine), and I don't want to. I said "I don't want to nag" yesterday, and it came out like "I don't want to nag ... but". I don't want to! I want him to do what he's told, not start applying his own theories and messing around with it like he's prone to.

It can be hard though when you feel like you're being treated like a dolt by someone who is really a dolt. Do you know what the "diabetic diet" lunch they gave him in hospital yesterday was??

beef stew - half potatoes, and you could taste the sugar added to it!!
mashed sweet potatoes - nutritious, but very high in carbohydrates
white rice - little food value, pure empty carbohydrates
clear vegetable soup ... with crackers to add
half-slice brown bread
lettuce salad with low-cal (i.e. high-sugar) dressing
tinned pears
apple juice
milk

Where are the green beans, the brussels sprouts, the lentils, the squash, the brocolli and cauliflower and celery?? One vegetable, the starchiest one in the (European) diet, and everything else refined starch (bread, crackers, rice) or high sugar (milk, juice, fruit).

If I fed him a meal like that it would be because I was trying to poison him.

The beef stew we had last week, for instance, had beef, butternut squash, green beans, celery, onions, unpolished barley and green lentils. And no sugar added.

Anyhow. I try to do my bit by feeding him wonderfully healthful meals and doing all the carbohydrate counting. I don't want to nag too! I really don't.

But I know, we who don't have to live the way a diabetic does can't imagine how depressing and frustrating it would be.

Daff -- when I was in school, "necessary" was the one word I could not spell for the life of me! I'm sure you're a model sicko. ;) And it's always lovely to see you hereabouts.

Sylvia -- the cedar was sounding good, nice and rot-resistant as it is, but I'm liking the sounds of oak.

A 4x4, I might not be able to aim so accurately, Dee! The idea isn't to wear my own self out in the process. ;)

Speaking of which -- Liz, he really is quite good about the exercise part of it. In winter it's snow shovelling, in the transitional seasons it's gardening -- lots of raking and hauling and stuff -- and in good weather, with the gardening, he takes a longish bike ride every day, and he's also a walker. I'm the one needs to get with that program ...

Hi Janey, must have got confused lol, thought you used to say he spent a lot of time on Chesterfield, when you were at work and such.

Glad he is doing something right, and hope things work out ok and he starts to be sensible about the things he needs to do to survive.

Hope you can hang on to your sanity too with all this pressure.

Lizxx

Oh, he does still do that, Liz. ;)

Snow shovelling and gardening and bicycling, healthy as they are, don't contribute anything to the bank account!

I'd better head home soon and check that he hasn't expired in my absence ...

He wouldn't dare, would he lol?

xx

I might just drop off the cedar


............. cedar plank soaked in water, then salmon side/ fillet/ steak placed on top and bbq'd


smashing!



Hope all is well when you get home!

I keep saying things like "check that he hasn't expired in my absence" -- I emailed a friend the other day that I had to go home and take him to the clinic because he was "sickening to die", thinking I was being facetious because of course he had man flu ...

So.

Guess where I was last night til 4 a.m.?

He should not have been discharged. I should have raised a stink. He is back in emergency in DKA again; diabetic ketoacidosis, look at me, I speak the lingo.

*Not* his fault. He should not have been taken off intravenous insulin and bang, sent out the door, contrary to what we'd originally been told, that it would take a couple of days to make the transition off intravenous and stabilize him back on subcutaneous (the insulin shots in the belly).

So here I go, trying to do the work I hadn't got done when I went home and found him languishing on the chesterfield and packed him off to ER again. Not in mortal danger this time, but not fun.

Wave at me as I go by! If you see anybody looking for me / offering me "obnoxious" lessons over on TTF etc, tell 'em I have a sick family member and they must make every allowance!

~~~ wave of support for Janey from us all ~~~

Ta, Glenys -- and I'll pass it on. ;)

Oh Janey - what traumas - I now see you as a cross between Florence Nightingale and Delia Smith!!! You must be absolutely traumatised and worn out.

I had a lovely boss, best one I ever had, who was an unstable diabetic. He didn't look after himself at all in spite of being a very highly qualified nuse - he was a qualified General nurse, an RMN and an RMNH but when it came to himself, he was rubbish. He used to go hypoglaecemic regularly and we all paid the price!!! me especially!!! He got arrested on more than one occasion when people took him to be drunk and he said the most outrageous things to people but he was just a fantastic man and I loved him to bits. Even though he often called me a stupid bitch!!!

Janey, we are both insulin dependant in our house, though it's me who does the looking after. He has had trouble recently with autonomic neuropathy, which is affecting his bowel and his heart. At last he is making the effort to eat more and not let his sugars go so low. He has generally been below 4 and can be standing with a blood sugar of 1.8! There are so many foods he will not eat that cooking is a nightmare. I do understand what you have been going through. when mine is having a hypo and refuses to recognise it is the only time you hear me shout at him, and then you could hear me all along the street. It works, though!

what is it with men that they just don't listen?

Aargh, eh? So many people affected by it, and it is such a depressing and frustrating thing. No.1's great good fortune (haha) is that he was not diabetic until he was nearly 50. Less time for it to wreak its havoc, over his diabetic lifetime.

The haranguing and the lectures -- and the different things from different people. Someone I was giving his history to last week (when he couldn't talk) ... I said he'd been misdiagnosed as type 2 for too long and deteriorated badly in the interim before he got properly diagnosed and put on insulin ... well, she said, he could be on insulin and still be type 2 ... so there's me feeling ignorant and untutored. This time, him being lucid, he made it clear in no uncertain terms that he had (eventually) been diagnosed as type 1 and not type 2.

Florence Nightingale and Delia Smith. Yes, Ann o' GG, I think you've captured me. ;) Not without a little Jane Tennison, though!

Katzchen, a bit of sweetness ... yes, well, his theory is: as much as he likes as long as he does the insulin. Originally I planned it that I'd sometimes do a super low-carb meal (chicken caesar salad on pita, e.g.) so he could have his dessert. Then dessert just became standard. And it's not as if *I* need dessert. ('Scuse me; pudding ;) .) I have created some lovely low-carb desserts though, cottage-cheese based, and will be happy to pass on the recipes! Mmm, sugar-free strawberry jello cheesecake. Better than it sounds. But it's not a fudge brownie no matter how you dress it up.

Jean, I'd give my right arm if he were ever hypoglycaemic! That's what they did warn us about the signs of. Nothing was ever said about DKA, or what might trigger it. From now on, he gets a sniffle, he goes to the clinic that instant. Maybe if he gets with the program properly I'll get to see hypoglycaemia some day, and I will jump for joy and hand him a KitKat. ;)

Hi Janey


sending good thoughts to you that he will be sent home at the proper time this time, and you will have no more visits to Emerg!!

OH was in hospital 3 years ago for colon cancer. The other patient in the room had the same operation, was in his mid-70s, diabetic and ran his own company making desserts suitable for diabetics. He had a cheesecake that was absolutely yummy!!

HOWSUMEVER ........ he had problems in the hospital, nurses kept giving him h*ll 'cos his blood sugar was all out of whack, and for leaving his food.

He told them to look at his meals


"Diabetic" meals provided by the dietician ............ full of sugars and all the wrong things!

There was usually just one item that he could safely eat.


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Exactly, Sylvia! You saw my list up above of what was on No.1's tray at lunchtime? It wasn't just me being stroppy - he couldn't believe it, he could *taste* the sugar in the beef stew! Sugar in beef stew?!

We figure it's because dieticians are used to dealing with people who were reared on white food -- potaotes, flour, milk, white rice, white bread, crackers, spaghetti -- and/or fast/junk food -- and they figure the thing only way to do it is have them eat the same food, just measure / ration it.

For the amount of carbs on that tray, I could have provided an absolute feast, full of vegetables and flavour. Even just a decent beef stew, for pity's sake. Why not try at least to set an example, offer them some new ideas, when you've got a chance, when they're captive in a hospital bed? ;)