General Chat

Well it looks like you're both bored by each others comments.

I find it fascinating (today at least) but nethertheless, I do wish that you wouldn't get so personal and stick to the subject.

Just one more tip before I wander off to amuse myself, in the public interest.

Talking about owning firearms, on the internet, may not be wise. (Said to no one in particular: more than one person has done this in these two threads.)

Toronto police, for example, have strongly urged firearms owners not to discuss their firearms in public. Thieves do target residences with firearms in them. So that might be one of the bits of personal info one might choose to keep off the internet.

Oh well, Kitty. To each her own, eh?

I can't be bothered with passive-aggressive whining, myself. Or absence of the courage of someone's convictions.

If you don't have anything to say, don't say it!

If you do have something to say, have the guts to say it.

Mottos to live by.

Howzat for short and sweet?

People who choose to engage in a discussion of a serious and complex issue in public and then whine about how many words someone uses, and whine about being presented with actual information about the subject, and whine about being challenged to back up their own words with something resembling facts, reaaaally bore me.

well heres my 2 pennuth......everytime sumink likes this happens its sort out the gun laws.my hubby has guns .and believe me its like a fort trying to get near his gun cabinet .thats if you can find it.plus he hides the keys so hes vetted real close.and so he should be .but................if this guy has done this cos of tax stuff.why not sort out that.the tax peeps they can be merciless not that i am making excuses for that guy at all.its always the gun laws etc.

I can hear a noise but cant see anyone..

I can hear a noise but cant see anyone..

* skips away with Sheila down the yellow brick road :O) x

Mau - I'll join you in the invisible brigade ;-))) x

No I'm with Kitty, although I did put a really long post which covered current firearms legislation, but only to portray the facts of what we were discussing. I apologised for the length too ll

However, when I see a really long post I usually read the first line and the last line but somewhere in between start losing the will to live LOL.

Which is why I prefer to just use a small but relevant quote to illustrate one point in a post, rather than attempt to cover everything in one go.

I see you.

Tip: I've been using the "add" link because it lets you see what you're replying to.

(And for anybody who needs to figure it out: I C&P from the posts I'm replying to because in a non-threaded thread, there is no way of knowing who is talking to whom about what. I really wish we could stop whining about this.)

But if you use the "add" link and something goes wrong, like the thread being deleted, when you back-page, the text is gone.

However, if you use the "Reply" button/box, you can back-page, reopen the box, and your text will still be there for copying. In my Firefox that works, anyhow!

but Kitty... my post was long but certainly not tedious,and no C&P either...I sometimes think I'm invisible :O(

Kitty ... really ... nobody forces you to read anything anybody else writes.

And complaining about what other people write, without saying anything about that or anything else, just isn't really worth your bother. Me, you see, I get tired of reading posts that do nothing but complain about other people's posts ...

We can keep on chatting, of course, as long as TW doesn't delete. ;)

I've been the victim of an extremely violent crime -- no gun involved. If there had been, I'd be dead.

I've been a secondary victim of two gun deaths.

The man I was in a relationsihp with while I was articling - older - once had two sons. When I met him, he had one. His younger son, at 13, depressed to an extent no one obviously knew about surgeries for congenital spina bifida ("club foot" -- surgery gone wrong, apparently), killed himself with one of his father's hunting weapons.

Hence, perhaps, my noticing the high rate of suicides committed with Swiss military-issue firearms. (The other point on that is that quite a few firearms suicides there and elsewhere are actually suicide-homicides: usually a man killing a woman and then himself. Non-firearm suicide-homicides are rare. Not many people want to stab or suffocate or drown their victim and then stab or suffocate or drown themselves, or get on a bus to the nearest tall building to jump off. Those are clear cases of deaths that would be fewer in number if firearms were not present.)

Several years later, when I was in practice, I pulled into my parking space one winter morning to the news on the radio that a client of mine had been shot dead. Her sister had sponsored her new husband, a gang-involved drug dealer, from within Canada. Because of his abusive behaviour, she had withdrawn the sponsorship, and he was told he would have to leave. He climbed in a window of the family home (where she had gone for safety) early in the morning with a handgun, started shooting, and killed my client. She was not the direct victim of his abuse, but she died because he was a woman-abusing piece of scum, in the crossfire of his attempt to kill his direct victim.

Maybe that's why I have noticed the number of women killed by men using military-issue firearms in Switzerland.


Or maybe, in both cases, it's just because I give a darn.

oooh sounds like I missed a good one....

Ah well at least we got to the bottom of that.


So.....what shall we talk about?

The weather? Nope thats already done LOL

Well thanks very much Eldrick you wasted quite a bit of my valuable time replying to your debate thread!

**tuts** you could have waited until I had the chance to read the "predictable diatribe" whatever it was ;)

Have a good evening :)

I can't argue with you there TW, I may be wrong but I don't think it's the case either. As you say, I imagine some people would have very valid views on the subject if they were affected by it.

frEEEEEE speech!

Whee.

No, it was me. It had turned into a rather predictable diatribe and gone well away from the original topic to the extent that I thought it best, as I'm about to go out, to get rid.

I haven't got the strength to keep reading endless C&P's from all over the internet, have every single word analysed, scrutinised and twisted round and have the goalposts moved every second. So I exercised my perogotive!

See you all tomorrow :-)