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Thank you, Ann, for your information re possible Kingsmills. I have not used the site very much and had not realised I had posted on the wrong chat page.
I shall look into the information you have passed on and also post on Genealogy Chat.
Many thanks.
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Sep. 23 William Grove (or Groave), of S' Clement Danes, Midd., Bach', ab'
22, & Constance Kingsmill, of Endivor, Hampshire, Sp', ab' 19,
with consent of her father ; at Gray's Inn Chapel, Midd.
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Kingsmill of Barkham
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m 23 Sep 1684 William Grove of Castle Shanaghan b 1662 Ireland possibly the same as William Grove of St Clement Danes Middlesex b ca 1650 son of William and Mary ...
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CONSTANCE KINGSMILL (d. 1625)
Constance Kingsmill was the daughter of William Kingsmill of Malshanger, Hampshire (d.1592?). There are a confusing number of Williams and Constances in the Kingsmill family, but it appears that this one, in about 1602, married Thomas Baker of Whittingham Hall, Suffolk and Leyton, Essex (d. April 10, 1625) as his second wife. At the time of the marriage, Baker subscribed to an indenture by which all his lands in Essex were assigned to Constance as her jointure. Their children included Thomas, Richard, and Elizabeth. Constance died only a few months after her husband.
CONSTANCE KINGSMILL (d.1637)
Constance Kingsmill was the daughter of Richard Kingsmill of Highclere, Hampshire (c.1528-September 1600) and Alice Fauconer (d. before 1574) and was a wealthy heiress, her worth accounted at £40,000. She was brought up in the Walsingham household as a companion to Frances Walsingham. She became the second wife of Sir Thomas Lucy of Charlecote (1551-1605). Their fourteen children included Thomas (1585-December 1640), Richard (1592-April 5, 1667), George (b.1593), William (1594-October 4, 1677), Robert (d.1615), Francis (1600-c.1682), Elizabeth, Bridget, Anne, and Susanna. Portrait: effigy on her father’s tomb in St. Michael Archangel, Highclere, Hampshire and on her husband's tomb at Charlecote, Warwickshire.
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Hi there Penny - this would have been better posted on Genealogy Chat rather than General Chat :-)
Constance Kingsmill of, Sydmonton, Hampshire, England d. Aft ...
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Constance Kingsmill of, Sydmonton, Hampshire, England d. Aft Apr 1587: Community Trees Project. ... Sir William Kingsmill, of, Sydmonton, Hampshire, England , d.
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Constance Kingsmill was the daughter of Richard Kingsmill of Highclere, Hampshire (c.1528-September 1600) and Alice Fauconer ...
Ancestors and/or relations of Constance KINGSMILL
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Constance KINGSMILL. Born: Abt 1551, Sydmonton, Hampshire, England; Married: Abt 1570; Died: 1589, Broughton Castle, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
Constance Kingsmill (1562 - 1589) - Genealogy
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Genealogy for Constance Kingsmill (1562 - 1589) on Geni with over 100 million profiles of ancestors and living relatives. Page updated September 3, 2011.
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Parental family: John Kingsmill and Constance Goring ... Death: Date: 11 December 1592; Residence: of Sidmonton Court, Hampshire. Family: John Kingsmill and Constance ...
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I have a feeling that the name Kingsmill has been passed down in my family under the surname GROVE. I have come across a lot of Kingsmill Groves and my father's name was William John Kingsmill WARE - his mother was a Grove. He passed the name on to his youngest son (my brother), even though he did not use the name himself! I came across the following - by accident - some time ago when searching online during a course I was attending.
" Marriage Licences issued by the Archbishop of Canterbury, 1679-1694
1684.
County: General
Country: England
23 Sep 1684 William Grove (or Groave), of St Clement Danes, Midd., Bachr, abt 22, & Constance Kingsmill, of Endivor, Hampshire, Spr, abt 19, with consent of her father; at Gray's Inn Chapel, Midd. "
I cannot link this with my family yet. The furthest I have been able to find so far is William Grove born before 1711 who was married to Elizabeth Cole.
Does anyone know how I can research this further? Was the name perhaps carried on because the Kinsgmill family wanted their family name used for future male children. It looks as though this could have been a marriage of wealthy families.
Penny Minton
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