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What a sad world we live in

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 20 Feb 2014 21:07

regarding hanging - I too always think of Timothy Evans in the Christie case - that is why, even with DNA, w can't justify hanging - one mistake is one too many

Anyway, I think a life locked away until death is better than hanging, as long as life means just that - life!!!

I also think people should be prosecuted for taking photographs of crime scenes whilst the crime is still being investigated - ghoulish in the extreme

Mauatthecoast

Mauatthecoast Report 20 Feb 2014 21:00

Shocking news Ann and tragic for the family,my heart goes out to them.

Last September there was a murder in nearest town to us and by coincidence also a hairdresser, who was knifed to death by a former boyfriend who wouldn't accept their break up. He is now serving a prison sentence.

PollyinBrum

PollyinBrum Report 20 Feb 2014 18:52

Ann it's a tragedy that will stay with the girls parents for the rest of their days. Also my thoughts go out to the parents of the young man responsible for the girls death. What a dreadful burden they will have to carry.

Joeva

Joeva Report 20 Feb 2014 17:55

Dermot,

There is no place on earth where this tragic event could have been prevented.

Statistics show that the majority of killings are carried out by partners,family members, friends or acquaintances. The highest percentage is men against women.


AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 20 Feb 2014 17:30

Not just Gloucester is it Dermot? actually Gloucester is not too bad, this is not the first murder here in the past couple of years admittedly but mostly the perpetrator is known to the victim (not that that is excusable). On the whole the quality of life is not bad at all here, the usual yobs who think it fair to relieve people of their hard earned possessions. the usual youngsters who have too much to drink in the clubs. But, considering we are very much a multi cultural town there is not much unrest between ethnic groups etc.

Dermot

Dermot Report 20 Feb 2014 17:11

What does it take to be stabbed to death in Gloucester nowadays?

There is another thread under the heading - ‘Are you happy the way Britain is now... ?’ & most contributors seem to agree that the quality of life generally is much better now than it was not that many years ago.

But cruel incidents like this death makes one wonder.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 20 Feb 2014 14:51

But, according to the TV news at lunch time she wasn't, killed by her own scissors that is. Seems somehow the papers have been given wrong information and it was a knife which the police have. Doesn't make it any better except if it had been the scissors he may have had a manslaughter defence but if it was a knife he carried, that makes a difference to his offence.

Magpie

Magpie Report 20 Feb 2014 13:19

Taking photo's of an 'incident' scene is quite beyond me. a completely weird/macabre thing to do. As for capitol punishment, OH and I often discuss this and I think both us feel 'no', instinctively, we feel, yes hang the swine, BUT, are we not reducing ourselves to the level of these awful people? I have to admit I don't really know, but I always think of Edward Evans(?) in the Christy case, and what an awful miscarriage of justice that was.; Obviously there were plenty more, and once someone is dead - well they're dead, if you see what I mean. Killed with her own scissors? Oh how terrible.

Dermot

Dermot Report 20 Feb 2014 09:46

The value of life has been eroded.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 20 Feb 2014 09:23

When we walked past yesterday there were quite a few members of the public, mostly young, pointing their phones at the white tent over the doorway. I had to admire the police officer who was there to talk to the press. One young girl pointed her phone right at his face and he didn't flinch or say anything. Not only a sad world but a strange one too.

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 20 Feb 2014 03:30

Seems Hollie was probably stabbed with her own scissors. How tragic for her and her family, friends and colleagues. Why can't people understand that when a relationship has run it's course, there is no good to come out of threats and such?


Seems members of the public took pics of the medics working on Hollie, which is sick, and police are asking them not to put the pics on social networks. Why would someone want to do that?

Rest in peace Hollie.


Lizx

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Feb 2014 22:08

it was so sad to read this in an on-line newspaper .......


....... and that he was indeed her ex-boyfriend in an on and off relationship that she finally ended for good in mid-January.

Frederick

Frederick Report 19 Feb 2014 21:53


Ann.. The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years
in prison and a fine of £5,000.
but It's usually a slap on the wrist and told not to be a naughty boy or girl.


F.

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 19 Feb 2014 21:49

Hairdressers in Southgate street Jude, Docks end.

~`*`Jude`*`~

~`*`Jude`*`~ Report 19 Feb 2014 21:31

Hello AnnG.....so sorry to read this. Her poor family, friends and her work colleagues.


RIP Holly xx

jude x

Elizabethofseasons

Elizabethofseasons Report 19 Feb 2014 20:34

Dear AnnInGlos


So very sorry to hear this.

Rest in peace, Holly.

Sincere wishes
Elizabeth
xx

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Feb 2014 20:30

dreadful - how can anyone get over the death of a child

I don't know what the sentence is for carrying a knife, but it should be at least 10 years, even if no crime has been committed with it

Frederick

Frederick Report 19 Feb 2014 19:42


That's why I say bring back hanging, once they have their neck stretched
at least they can't do it again.


F

UzziAndHerDogs

UzziAndHerDogs Report 19 Feb 2014 19:34

Magpie ...
you could be right and how sad is that

Mersey

Mersey Report 19 Feb 2014 17:43

So very very sad..... :-( <3