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Lost Medieval custom.

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Sharron

Sharron Report 4 Mar 2014 08:43

They evidently were in Chesterfield Bob.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 4 Mar 2014 08:31

Does she become a twisted Bakewell tart? :-S

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 4 Mar 2014 08:25

wonder if there is a Bakewell virgin on ebay.........??

are they THAT rare? Sharron?

Sharron

Sharron Report 4 Mar 2014 08:13

That's true.

But when a virgin does marry in Bakewell church you just wait and see what happens!

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 4 Mar 2014 01:12

Bakewell is famous for tarts - Chesterfield for a dodgy spire :-)

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 4 Mar 2014 00:42

:-D :-D

Sharron

Sharron Report 3 Mar 2014 22:08

That will be another cup of coffee you need then.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 3 Mar 2014 21:53

I spluttered my coffee over it :-P

Sharron

Sharron Report 3 Mar 2014 21:40

What?

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 3 Mar 2014 20:56

Sharron - one new keyboard please!!!!!!!

Sharron

Sharron Report 3 Mar 2014 20:49

I heard that the twisted spire on the church in Bakewell was caused because a virgin was married in the church and the spire was so surprised it bent down to get a better look and was unable to get up straight again.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 3 Mar 2014 20:09

Not heard of Rhyl woman. No, one I'm thinking of was in Lllangollen sort of area and was long time ago, Maggie.

Thanks for posting that article though. Bit spooky, but very interesting

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 3 Mar 2014 18:39

Padre Pio has since been 'debunked' :-|

Could the Welsh woman be the one mentioned here - found in a cupboard?

http://marilynkaydennis.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/incorruptible-bodies-part-4/

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 3 Mar 2014 18:00

This was in Daily Mail today:

"Body of controversial saint Padre Pio exhumed for public display 40 years after his death

The body of a controversial mystical monk who became a saint was today exhumed from his grave 40 years after his death and his corpse was said to be "intact"."

This seems virtually identical to the young woman I am trying to remember about in North Wales.

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 3 Mar 2014 17:54

:-0 :-0 :-0 I will let the Ladies themselves divulge their sexual proclivity behind closed doors, if they are able. Was Liz Sturt in their bedroom(s) at the time?

I am sure that this digging up of a virgin's body in that area and finding it in good condition (not rotten) did not involve the Ladies of Llangollen personally. But they somehow reminded me of the incident. So I guessed it was in that area at about their time.

I think it was a very religious lady - possibly Roman Catholic.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 3 Mar 2014 17:40

John,
I'm not sure the 'Ladies of Llangollen' were totally innocent!
They possibly knew each other quite well.
One of our religious studies lecturers (Prof Liz Stuart - you can Google her) took a few of us (male & female) on a, well, to be blunt, 'Lesbian trail' which included the 'Ladies' house. The house is amazing! :-D

Sharron

Sharron Report 3 Mar 2014 09:45

It's the drums.

If you are a villager you know these things.

Somebody once said that you could be doing something on your own in a lead lind room and the next day they would be saying "Do you know what he was doing yesterday, on his own, in that lead lined room of his?"

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 3 Mar 2014 09:41

Am sure I remember in the Llangollen area that they dug up the grave of a "virgin" several years after death and found her body still pure and intact.

I associate it with the spinster "Ladies of Llangollen" but don't think it was either of them.

I think there must have been some who thought that dying a virgin kept your body from rotting. Hope so - don't want mine to rot away

:-) ;-)

Maryanna

Maryanna Report 3 Mar 2014 09:26

There also seem to be several who all died around 1843, who you wouldn't expect to "deserve" one, for want of a better phrase, Maggie.

Several young men and women, all living in a small village, all around the same age, all dying within years of each other.

One wonders why none of them got together, there can't have been that much choice.

Almost as if it was the done thing to go to the grave as pure as they started.

M. :-0

Edit, I have just had a thought, a while ago we visited a little church up on Exmoor, there were three or four items on the wall above the door. We didn't know what they were at the time, I wonder if they were the same thing, must go back and have a look.

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 3 Mar 2014 08:20

Something Allan said on his 'Stonehenge' thread reminded me of this.

I used to live in a small village called Abbotts Ann. They still have Virgin crowns in the church - the last one put up was in 1973 :-(

Full explanation and names:

http://www.little-ann.co.uk/church/virgins.htm

picture & small explanation here:

http://www.southernlife.org.uk/virgin.htm

How could they tell? Obviously the tragic death of a child is (hopefully) obvious, but a teenage lad?