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So, they learn the behaviour from their parents.

How does that make the children need punishment?

Absolutely agree with you Roy

Learnt behaviour one word "Parents"

And i don't care what enyone thinks fact is WE ALL have a breaking point

Roy

I wonder where they learned to do that and why they would want to.

Dealing with one or two disruptive children at home cannot compare to a teachers experience of constant goading and abuse from a classroom full of children

Yes abuse is not something that only adults do to children,

Some children are experts at dishing out abuse to adults.

Roy

And there you have it, Lynda!

The proverbial nail on the head.

Discipline should and must begin at home.

Teachers do a jolly good job in often very trying circumstances and I think we may not know all the facts in this particular case anyway.
I saw one parent interviewed on television, whose child was in the class, and she was finding it hard to suppress a giggle.
Lynda, interacting with children, however disruptive, in the home is very different compared to controlling a class of 30.
As I said earlier, for all we know this teacher could have reached the end of their tether. That may not excuse the resultant action but it could explain why.

On a lighter note, I am reminded of a cousin who taught in a somewhat demanding environment in one of those inner city schools in Liverpool.
I asked him what he taught and he looked me straight in the eye and replied: "Little b***ards!"

Lynda, I don't think putting tape around a childs mouth is the same as giving a child a good hiding, And discipline at home doesn't mean a parent giving a child a good hiding either,

My children were disciplined at home and we have never laid a finger on any of our children,

Why do people think that discipline and violance are one and the same thing.

Roy

I have only ever been a child and not had many dealings with them since but I am interested to know how you did deal with the disruptive behaviour, Lynda.

I don't know if you are highly trained but it is interesting that you were able to deal with the problem whereas a highly trained teacher was not.

Couldn't disagree more

If going to school causes a child distress then the child has not been prepared for that part of their life by the parents,

As for being afraid of the teachers, I was never afriad of any teacher despite my experiance, I was simply prepared for what was going to happen IF i stepped out of line,

No wonder more and more kids today cannot cope with real life once they leave school and venture out into the big wide world.

Roy

Does anyone really think that any child who doesn't get discipline at home, will benefit from getting a good hiding at school?

Teachers are not allowed to touch children, therefore putting tape round there mouths isn't an option, they aren't allowed to do it, they know that, so if they feel the need, they need to get a new job, perhaps where they can work with adults that will let them do such things.

Having worked with, and had children with extreme disruptive behaviour live with us through fostering, even when I've been in severe situations because of bad behaviour, I've never felt the need to tape anyone's mouth, beat them or abuse them in any way, there are other ways to gain respect, I went down that route.

Teachers are bound to do their utmost towards fulfilling the students’ expectations.

Of course they have to go to school!

It is a legal requirement and should be the case anyway.

I went to a very good school and it was rather strict but I still had respect not just for teaching staff but for other people and adults in general.

Teachers face a nigh on impossible task these days and it is THEY who are subjected to violence and utter abuse on a daily basis.

Was a bit surprised to read today that this happened when the children were playing Blind Mans Bluff.

Maybe Sellataping childrens mouths is the norm in the rest of Europe.

Children have no choice but to go to school, however much distress it ay cause them.

As for respect I don't think we actually did respect our teachers. We were afraid of them because they had the power to bully us and we had nowhere to turn for support so would enact the respect they felt was their right.

Of the scene with the bully with a cane and the frightened little boy I have more respect for the boy.

I couldn't agree more, Roy!

Your correct Sharron, No teacher is forced to go to School but No teacher should have to cope with the fallout from children who's parents have failed to set boundaries for their offspring.



Roy

Well of course teachers are not forced to go in that, unlike as with children, it is not a legal requirement - but it is their job.

Exactly as I have written it.

How do you mean?

Everybody has to go to school but nobody is forced to go there as a teacher.