General Chat

Do you have many in yours? :-)

In the last month or so I have added at least an "extra" 100 plus blood related living cousins etc to my tree.

I am only just realizing how many there really are in my tree, must run well into three figures now and just found another half dozen this morning to add .

Its mind boggling they seem never ending. Its pretty easy with just using the GR present records facilities.
ie; BMD`s and Electoral Rolls, and with using various other on line facilities such as Google maps and 192 .com etc you can even zoom in on the street or house they are living in.
A bit scary if you have paranoid tendencies.

I hope you have written permission in triplicate from each living person in your tree.
:-D

I don't need permission Ken matey...
Its my tree to do with as I will.
I don't suppose GR has permission to put on the same information for all paying members to access either
:-D :-D

GR records aren't much use to me, as I don't have many English relatives.

No point in having anything other than the Basic membership.

I am in a similar position to LadyScozz - most of mine originated from Scotland and Ireland, quite a few on the Wotherspoon side of my family moved to the Rugby area of Warwickshire in the mid 19th century - yet to start work on them though.

You have no right to put living people on an online tree without their permission. What do you expect to gain by it? Or are you a name collector?

Margee

With respect, my tree is my business. You have no right whatsoever to tell me who I can include in my tree..

NO I am not a "Name Collector". whatever the inference to that may mean.

What do you mean "I" have no right.? where does that come from ?

"What do you mean "I" have no right.? where does that come from ? "


- it comes from the terms and conditions of the Genes Reunited site.

This is c&p'd from GR's rules:

"You must have permission to include any living individual's details and photos in your family tree."

I didn't make it up!

My tree on here which is very small, doesn't even have myself nor my parents in,

I am the only living person on my tree here. My parents are listed as they are both deceased but I haven't listed my husband, siblings, children or grandchildren. Nor any living cousins.

as I read it(I may be wrong) but Brian hasn't said its an online tree........so he can do as he likes........
Bob

Uh oh!, perhaps you're correst, Bob, I just assumed that it was a tree on GR here. Of course, if it's not an online tree one can do as one likes and if that's the case I apologize, Brian.

Thank you Jax for answering my question, and thank you too Margee for your last reply.

I take it that you two young ladies also have a Family Tree program on your computers as I do, where you store your total researched relatives (living or dead) and their respective details?

The last few months I have been stretching my tree to its limits, on the outer fringe's.
ie, 3rd and 4th cousins etc, and I was shocked to see how many living people are coming to the surface quite enlightening and very interesting too.

Yes Bob I was making reference with my FTM program in mind.
Btw, you can put living rellies on the GR tree. I think if you click the 120yr exclusion button (they wont show then to anyone).

If Brian has added living people to GR tree without their knowledge, he needs to be made aware of the "search all trees" function.

Details of living people can be hidden when granting access to another member, but doesn't prevent them from being found under the function.

I know because, I found myself there!
I know who the owner is, and I know exactly how he obtained the private details.

I certainly didn't provide the information on my tree, but there was enough info regarding my deceased parents ( I have since remedied this) for him to visit a Scotland's People centre and find the rest for himself.
He obtained my exact date and place of birth and my subsequent marriage.
Obtaining this also allowed him to obtain my OHs's details too!!

Both myself and GR have requested that he remove the information,

I have no idea if the information has been shared via GR or any other site and I find that extremely worrying!

in theory I have living relatives on my tree. I just havent followed through on some siblings married line . I may have found a marriafge and children to 1911 but not followed on from there as the branches get further away . You could go on forever on twigs.

This tho is mainly on my FTM programme .I got fed up adding to the genes tree

My tree is on Ancestry and private and myself and parents come up as 'Living person'

I have no Aunts and uncles even though two are dead in my tree and only have my mum and dads cousins if the were born before 1914. My husband and children are not mentioned at all in either tree

Any names on a GR tree will show up on the listings (even though you've ticked the box not to show living relatives on your tree).

Many countries have laws (under the Privacy Act), meaning you cannot post anyone's name on a public site without their permission.

If I had put my brother's details he would have his lawyer after me.....faster than you could say "you can pick your friends but not your relatives".

On my GR tree, I don't appear, neither does my OH or our siblings, or anyone else living. My own software tree has thousands of names (cousins all over the world) that are NOT on the GR tree.

Contrary to many might think, most countries Privacy / Data Protection Laws do not prevent you as an individual from posting anyone's name on a public site without permission. In fact the activities of private individuals acting on their own account is generally excluded altogether from any legislation. In fact, in Australia, exclusions extend as far as businesses with a turnover of less than $3 million, unless they opt in.

It is for this very reason, i.e the lack of legislation, why the issue of maintaining privacy on family trees is purely a matter of common sense and goodwill, perhaps reinforced by the terms and conditions of the website concerned.

Whilst GR has such terms, the only way they can ever be enforced is when someone complains.

Incidentally, electoral rolls and phone listings are a much easier way of finding out a persons details than finding a name is recorded on a tree website.