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**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 15 Jul 2014 10:17

I agree Tawny and Liz i once lived at the head of a cul-de-sac and i know exactly what you mean..

Tawny

Tawny Report 15 Jul 2014 08:25

It is indeed sad that so many people feel swearing is part of everyday speech. I used to work in a children's play area and one example sticks in my mind is a conversation between a little boy aged two and his mother. The child was going "s*** s*** s***" so the mother decides to tell the child like all parents should not to use that language "Don't you f word b word say that. Pot and kettle anyone.

Dermot

Dermot Report 15 Jul 2014 08:03

It saddens me that so many seem to regard loud swearing as wholly acceptable & almost as some sort of rite of passage simply to look cool in the presence of their peers. It is usually the loudest & the noisiest who tend to get everybody's attention.

Shouting out many profanities, some of which they would probably not be able to spell, if asked, effectively reinforces that goal.

The fake sign language interpreter Thami Jantjie, last seen at the Nelson Mandela memorial service gesticulating gibberish, would be hard pressed to explain their meaning.

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond

Purple **^*Sparkly*^** Diamond Report 15 Jul 2014 05:36

I disgraced myself yesterday morning. The house is at the end of a culdesac, in the middle of the T part and so everyone turns their cars there, the bin lorry stops there and goes back and forth with everyone's bins and so on. Add to that the the world and his wife seem to want to chat just under the bedroom window (it's at the front and there are no gardens to speak of so only 2 or 3 metres away. I recently got up and slammed the window hard when two neighbours were nattering and cackling out there and one did apologise to me via my o.h. when he saw her yesterday.

Just along from the middle of the T are a fairly new moved in couple, retired and with many visitors who hoot when they leave the parking space (whatever time of day) and shout bye, bye to the people who stand outside waving them off and shouting bye, bye, etc etc

Yesterday morning at 8.30am I heard these women talking very loudly (seems one of them is deaf) and the other one laughing and then she drove off and hooted her horn. I just settled down again (I sleep during the mornings as many of you know but sometimes o.h. is still sleeping if he he has been on the late shift at work) and the man of the house in the same place started speaking very loudly to his friend, he was doing it cos his friend had his engine running. He then walked alongside his car still talking and I went to the window and told him to Shut the F up! O.h. came upstairs and said What are you doing? but laughed when I told him why I was shouting obscenities out of the window. The neighbours immediately next to this couple have awful problems with them because of the woman's hearing problems, the husband shouts all the while and they get up at 6.30am and open the patio doors to eat their breakfast with the radio on and shouting to each other over the radio. My neighbour's hubby is 75, nearly died not so long back and has copd and now heart problems, the last thing they need is all the noise next to them so early in the day. It goes on as the good weather is here because the couple then sit in the garden, often with visitors who talk loudly too.

Neighbour the other side is just as bad and has three cars so is constantly shunting them around on the drive and out front, leaving the engine running for at least 5 minutes sometimes, again right under the bedroom window. His dogs bark all the time and when the neighbour the other side, who has a young child, remonstrated with him, he said It's not my problem and I couldn't care less what anyone thinks round here. Arrogant man, he was 50 the other day so not a youngster but as inconsiderate as a teenager might be.


Lizx

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 14 Jul 2014 22:19

my neighbour only has hens in his garden.. no cockerel thank goodness.. makes me laugh all his cats are frightened of the hens..

ann

ann Report 14 Jul 2014 22:14

My daughter lives in a small village There are 2 cockerels just over the back to her. I have been there during the day and they drive me mad. She says you want to hear them early morning and she is shattered. They are not on a farm but in someone's back garden

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 14 Jul 2014 20:15

Mmmm... thank you

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 14 Jul 2014 20:07

The party is early evening until whenever, so you can wear whatever you like :-D

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 14 Jul 2014 20:01

wow... is it fancy dress or evening wear? :-D

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 14 Jul 2014 19:51

You might as well be Stella, it seems everyone else is :-D

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 14 Jul 2014 19:46

i want to know why i am not invited Lynda ? :-(

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 14 Jul 2014 19:42

What I think is lacking now are manners and consideration, it seems some people have forgotten them, and some never had them.

We are having a big party at our house in a few weeks, there will be over 100 guests, a live band and other entertainment, so it will be noisy. BUT I will leaflet the houses it will affect, telling them when it is, and assuring them the music will finish at a reasonable time, and saying if they have any problem with it, to let me know. I think that's fair.

Before you ask Stella, you won't hear a thing :-D

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 14 Jul 2014 19:05

i think that is what is happening here Mayfield, we seem to have a lot of druggies, alcohlics and immigrants and with older folk who have been here for years the 4 don't mix very well, the houses are very old with thin walls and communal access through the gardens.

I could move to a comfortable bungalow because i am classed as disabled and i am a pensioner but i don't want to leave the home i have been in for over 20 years, i have a lot of happy memories here...

Mayfield

Mayfield Report 14 Jul 2014 18:55

Sorry to hear your troubles, been there, bought the T shirt, and wrapped it around my head to try and block out the noise! ;-)

Council houses are mostly really well designed and constructed they should be an ideal place to live in.

However.................

My Mum and Dad were on the council housing list for 9 years before they were offered a house on one of the biggest council estates in South London, it was newly built masses of room to play and Richmond park almost on the doorstep.

It was lovely, OK dad had a long commute, but everybody on the estate was in work and really happy to have a proper bathroom and central heating too!

Any families that caused trouble were moved to “sink estates” and another family given the chance to take over the home.

Then some PC idiot liberal nincompoop decided that putting problem families in a nice environment would reform them, so the rotten apples were dropped into the barrel with the inevitable outcome! :-(

Tawny

Tawny Report 14 Jul 2014 18:50

My brother was on the receiving end of a neighbour making complaints about the noise whilst he and three friends were renting a semi in York whilst at university. The noise related to taxis at 4am after clubbing on a Friday night and the occasional cheering in the living room during the day if they were playing on the X-Box. They put duvets up to cover the dividing wall and ended up getting taxis to stop at the end of the street. However the gentleman continued to complain about the noise so the police community support officer ended up coming out with a machine to register noise levels 4 times without warning to see if the noise was above permitted levels. Thankfully it was not deemed too loud and they had done everything they could to keep noise at a reasonable level so no action was taken. It was a scary time for them though but thankfully only lasted one year as they were able to get a different property for 3rd year.

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 14 Jul 2014 17:23

Lol Lynda..

I don't want to be a spoilsport but i would be very upset if i thought my own children were behaving that way.. :-D

~Lynda~

~Lynda~ Report 14 Jul 2014 17:18

I don't really need reinforcements Stella, but no worries "the boys" will be nearby :-D

Joking aside, other peoples noise is getting ridiculous, on the train you have those who listen to music with earphones, only they needn't bother with the earphones, we can all hear it, and those who use mobiles, we know who they are calling, and ranges from what's for dinner, to George is a right nasty piece of work for dumping Tina, what a load of old cobblers we have to put up with eh :-|

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 14 Jul 2014 17:16

I think my neighbous think i am a "grumpy old woman" but i agree with Karen... they are disrespectful.. :-|

Karen in the desert

Karen in the desert Report 14 Jul 2014 17:09


Lack of respect for others , I call it.

I too have noticed how loud some people are...on their phones, in their gardens, in their homes with windows wide open, in their cars with music up and windows open, and what's all this with shouting to each other across a shop or supermarket? Crikey, I would sooner walk over and speak to whomever without allowing the whole shop to hear my conversation, but many people don't seem to care...it's as though they want everyone to know their business. As if I'm interested!! But it's the 'look/listen to me I'm so important' generation, on the whole, and I blame Jeremy Kyle for promoting it !!!

Now it could be that I love peace and quiet, which makes me quick to notice noise. Or it could be that I am officially a grumpy old woman :-D
Or both :-|


P.S. I don't think Miss Elizabrth Bennett would think the young ladies of today very demure, all shouting and yelling their private business :-S

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★

**Stella ~by~ Starlight**★..★..★ Report 14 Jul 2014 17:05

my next door but one neighbour( 2 bed small house) has 3 dogs several cats and 4 hens ..this is not allowed , i made a complaint about the cats leaving dead birds sprawled over my lawn and the number of dogs.. he was given permission to keep 3 dogs and they said they couldn't do anything about cats.. who have since had kittens and i see now that one dog is pregnant too.. he is 25, obese lives with his daughter, girlfiend and sister also all obese and none of them go to work..they have a sette in the front garden where they and their friends sit smoking, drinking and talking loudly

Lynda , please could you bring reinforcements with you?

:-D