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maggiewinchester - that is terrible news you have received about the members of your nephews wife's family :-( my thoughts and prayers go out to those loved ones and friends they have left behind - may those that died R.I.P. <3

Daughter's just told me, my nephew's wife's family (Dutch Australian) were on that flight.
She's very upset. We'd never met nephew's wife's family, but my daughter was in regular contact with her cousin, his wife and her family on the internet.

This tragedy may be a staggering turn in world events & who knows where it will end.

World leaders, with all their huffing & puffing, have little effect to sort out the problems & ills of their communities. We are left virtually leaderless to cope with war & strife, poverty & wretchedness, inequality & local crime.

We are just fodder for the jaws of war.

They had clearance to fly over at 32k +.as did other airlines.
Black box info now Irrelevant. wont show anything.
Culprits already confessed on telephone call.
also caught on Sattelite.
Russia peed of with Rebels. may cast them out.

Bill in Oz.

I can only describe the shooting down of a civilian airliner as a heinous crime, I also have to wonder why it was flying over a war zone, I can only presume it was to save money on fuel :-|

Whoever was responsible for the murder of the crew and passengers of this flight need to be identified and brought to justice, however - there are reports that the black box has been recovered and sent to Russia, if that it is true, we may never know what information, if any, it might provide :-(

May all those who perished in this horrific incident R.I.P. <3 and my thoughts and prayers go out to all their loved ones and friends <3

Such a terrible tragedy my heart goes out to those families who have lost loved ones and to those people who put their trust in the airline and didn't suspect they would be in such peril.

Apparently at least 9 Britons lost, my o.h.'s son occasionally has to travel to all sorts of places for his job altho with his latest company I don't think he has to go so far. He once ended up in Angola for three months when he should have only had to spend 3 weeks there, due to problems with the job, so it was worrying for his wife and family then. Must be so heartbreaking to have your loved one go off to somewhere so far away and then to lose them in this way.

May all those lost rest in peace and may their loved ones get answers they so desperately need.

The families of the other victims in the lost airliner are still in limbo waiting to know what happened and where their people ended up.

Progress brings with it a lot of sadness and well as the good things.

Lizx

Persie, I shouldn't smile on a thread such as this, but your last sentence gave me a chuckle.

QG, my brother seems to be travelling constantly and for one brief moment I did wonder, but most of his travel is in Asia as his wife is Chinese.

Heed Persie's advice

RIP to all on the flight :-(

Quinsgran... you are required to be safe and sound.. so only venture in the other direction over the States.. that is the way we intend to go. Otherwise you will only be allowed to cross the harbour bridge.... we let Allan cross the bridge when he was here.

It is pretty damn despicable when friendly planes get shot down. I know it says they thought it was a cargo plane. Even during the war you fired at the enemy not your mates.

Laptops are great Allan, I don't like the pad on them for moving the cursor so have a mouse.. my advice there is get a cordless mini mouse ( I am not taking the Mickey)... I can even navigate my computer with the mouse in my pocket, but could look suspicious if you did that.

Persie

I took this flight from Amsterdam on my way back to NZ via KL It was the same MH17 but mine left 3 hours earlier and on 19th July 2012

I was going to travel again this year So glad I changed my mind. I use this flight so I can fly over to Durham Teesvalley Airport Easier than flying into London

Think twice about using it again. Hoping to go next year

Thanks for that, Bill

OH is watching the television reports at the moment, but I'm in a separate room.

I'm really going to have to buy a laptop :-|

Allan,
First Australian already on the scene,Rest of the team already on the way via Warsaw.
He reports nothing touched so far ?.
Rebel group have banned people from the west so far.

Many Aids experts on the flight.

No airline restrictions on flights above 33k.

Other airlines still using. (Til' today) this route.

Bill in Oz

Bill,

by the time authorities are allowed to reach the site, I bet any evidence that it may have been shot down, will have disappeared

Been watching this for a couple of hrs.
27 Australians so far.
Malaysians in charge again.
They will probabably ask the Ozzies to help them out.

Bill in Oz

Apparently, many of the passengers were en-route to Australia to attend a major HIV/Aids Conference :-(

And, I think 26 Australians and 6 British plus many other nationalities. Schipol is a hub so many nationalities fly there to go on to other places.

I heard on one of the news reports that there was 23 Americans on board

Look, airplanes, real time

http://www.radarvirtuel.com/

Avoiding Ukranian air space so as to make a great circle route costs a lot of money. Malaysian are well known for cheap fares to KL, Bali and Australia.

The sale of deadly weapons is limitless.

But, who sells what to whom?

It's reported that there were some English people on the pane.

It is a crime and the people who ordered/shot the plane down should be brought to justice.

Innocent people.........

this is evil.

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/07/18/02/23/malaysia-airlines-jet-crash-ukraine