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Wondering if anyone could help me. I am looking for a marriage with wife's maiden name for George Hatcher born 1845 married Elizabeth born 1880 married in 1901. Can anyone help?

Thank you

Where were they from or where were they living in 1901?

Kath. x

Could this be the marriage (although it would mean they were not actually married until a couple of months after the census):-

First name(s) George
Last name Hatcher
Birth year 1845
Marriage year 1901
Marriage day 15
Marriage month Jun
Place Woodnesborough , St Mary the Virgin
Groom's first name(s) George
Groom's last name Hatcher
Groom's age 56
Groom's parish -
Groom's father's first name(s) Thomas
Groom's father's last name Hatcher
Bride's first name(s) Elizabeth Annie
Bride's last name Mitten
Bride's age 21
Bride's parish -
Bride's father's first name(s) -
Bride's father's last name -
County Kent
Archive reference U3/64/1/9
Year range 1837-1928
Page 176

Kath. x

GRO reference for the above marriage:-

Year Of Marriage 1901
First name(s) GEORGE
Last name HATCHER
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1901
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ GEORGE HATCHER married
ELIZABETH ANNIE MITTEN
Spouse's last name -
District EASTRY
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 2052

Kath. x

Thank you Kath, that is it. Thank you for the help

Shame Elizabeth's fathers details weren't there

This could be a possibility for Elizabeth's birth (right place according to the 1901 census entry):-

First name(s) Elizabeth Ann
Last name Mitten
Birth year 1879
Birth day 15
Birth month Sep
Baptism year 1879
Baptism day 18
Baptism month Sep
Place Whitstable, All Saints
Father's first name(s) James
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte Eliza
County Kent
Archive reference U3/131
Year range 1873-1897
Record set Canterbury Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

Kath. x

GRO Reference for the above birth:-


First name(s) ELIZABETH ANN
Last name MITTEN
Birth year 1879
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District BLEAN
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 797

Kath. x

Anthony


you normally have to buy the marriage certificate to get any more information



but the absence of her father's name from that entry implies that seh did not know it



was that because her father had died when she was very young or because she was illegitimate??


Only you can judge that, by buying the certificate and seeing what other information might be on there

Here is Elizabeth in 1881

1881 Census

Name: Elizabeth A. Milton
[Elizabeth A. Mitten]
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitstable, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Eythorne
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address: Street End

Registration district: Eastry
Sub-registration district: Eythorn

James J. Fitzgerald 26 b.ca 1855, Eastry, Coachman (Domestic)
Annie Fitzgerald 25 b.ca 1856, Chalk Hill, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth A. Milton 1 Adopted Daughter



and probably alos in 1891 ......... but note that is another Mitten child

1891 Census

Name: Elizabeth Mitten
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitstable, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Thursley
Ecclesiastical parish: Thursley
Town: Clayhill
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Hambledon
Sub-registration district: Witley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10

John Wallace 72 Clerk in Holy Orders
Marian K J A Wallace 65 Wife
Caroline Greenway 74 Sister-in-Law
Elita Maud Wallace 34 Daughter
Mary Irene Wallace 29 Daughter
Emily A Greenway 23 Cook Domestic
Ellen Moorey 15 Domestic Housemaid
James J Fitzgerald 36 Married, Coachman
Annie Fitzgerald 35 Married, Domestic Housemaid
Elizabeth Mitten 11 Boarder
Lily Mary Mitten 20 b.ca 1871, Hawkhurst, Kent, Parlour Maid

Address:- Weysprings




so was Elizabeth allowed to be there because she was Lily's sister???

A tree on ancestry ......................... without much documentation .............. shows the following



Elizabeth Ann Mitten
Birth 15 Sep 1879 in Whitstable, Kent, England
Death 27 Dec 1965 in Dover, Kent, England


Parents

James Mitten
1852 –

Charlotte Eliza Fitzgerald
1843 – 1879


Siblings

Lily Mary Mitten
1870 –

Minnie Mitten
1871 –

Albert Mitten
1872 –

Edward Joseph Mitten
1875 –




Charlotte Eliza Fitzgerald
Birth 25 Apr 1843 in Lambeth
Death 15 Sep 1879 in Whitstable, Kent, England



IF this is accurate ..................... Charlotte died the same day that she gave birth to Elizabeth Ann




Marriage to James Mitten
1870 12 Jun — Age: 27
Kent, United Kingdom




going back to the 1881 Census ........... Elizabeth is shown as the Adopted daughter of James J Fitzgerald and wife Annie


Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%)
FITZGERALD James John Eastry 2a 1572
SCRIVENS Annie Eastry 2a 1572





from that same tree on ancestry ......................


James John Fitzgerald was brother to Charlotte Mitten ..................



James John Fitzgerald
Birth abt 1855 in Eastry, Kent, England
Death 1935 in Elham, Kent



Please do not accept this information as completely accurate ........................ there is no documentation shown on the tree,.


You should attempt to prove it all is true.

and here is Elizabeth Ann Mitten in 1901 ............ as Bessie, and with a small child



1901 Census

Name: Bessie Mitten
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Whitstable, Norfolk, England
[Whitstable, Kent, England]
Civil Parish: Woodnesborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Poulton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Eastry
Sub-registration district: Sandwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 15

George Hatcher 56 b.ca 1845, Bridge, Kent
Bessie Mitten 21 Housekeeper
Kate Hatcher 20
Charlotte Hatcher 14
Elizabeth Hatcher 12
Lucy Hatcher 10
Eva Hatcher 7
Hilda Mitten 10 Months

Address:- Dunn Court

There was also apparently another child ............ Olive Mitten

I'll follow this up later .........


......... but it seems that Elizabeth Ann was George's 3rd wife

Olive Mitten
Birth 15 Feb 1898 in Union Work House Minster Kent England
Death 1898 in St Peters Church St Leonards Hastings East Sussex England


Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
Mitten Olive Thanet 2a 942


Deaths Sep 1898 (>99%)
Mitten Olive 0 Thanet 2a 642



Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
Mitten Hilda Grace Thanet 2a 967

:-D :-D :-D


It is Hatcher on the image of the 1911, and Elizabeth's age has been transcribed incorrectly ........... it is 31 on the image


1911 Census

Name Age
George Harcher 66
Elizabeth Harcher 51
Hilda Mary Harcher 10
Percy Harcher 9
Lilian Harcher 7
Irene Harcher 5
Florence Harcher 3

Other apparent wives of George Hatcher

1871 Census

Name Age
George Hatcher 25
Maria Hatcher 20
Alfred Hatcher 2


possibly .................

Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)

Cock Maria Blean 2a 795
Hatcher George Blean 2a 795



But Alfred was born in ca 1869, and is registered as Hatcher


This may be an earlier marriage for George ...............

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
HATCHER George Canterbury 2a 1243
OAKENFULL Rebecca Canterbury 2a 1243


Deaths Jun 1869 (>99%)
Hatcher Rebecca 22 Canterbury 2a 397





?????

Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%)
HATCHER Maria 46 Eastry 2a 541

This is all amazing. You have found out so much detail. Thank you so much for this. It's all very professional.

Anthony .............


you are very welcome!





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