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Anthony
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5 Aug 2014 23:28 |
Hi All
Wondering if anyone could help me. I am looking for a marriage with wife's maiden name for George Hatcher born 1845 married Elizabeth born 1880 married in 1901. Can anyone help?
Thank you
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KathleenBell
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5 Aug 2014 23:38 |
Where were they from or where were they living in 1901?
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KathleenBell
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5 Aug 2014 23:44 |
Could this be the marriage (although it would mean they were not actually married until a couple of months after the census):-
First name(s) George Last name Hatcher Birth year 1845 Marriage year 1901 Marriage day 15 Marriage month Jun Place Woodnesborough , St Mary the Virgin Groom's first name(s) George Groom's last name Hatcher Groom's age 56 Groom's parish - Groom's father's first name(s) Thomas Groom's father's last name Hatcher Bride's first name(s) Elizabeth Annie Bride's last name Mitten Bride's age 21 Bride's parish - Bride's father's first name(s) - Bride's father's last name - County Kent Archive reference U3/64/1/9 Year range 1837-1928 Page 176
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KathleenBell
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5 Aug 2014 23:46 |
GRO reference for the above marriage:-
Year Of Marriage 1901 First name(s) GEORGE Last name HATCHER Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1901 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ GEORGE HATCHER married ELIZABETH ANNIE MITTEN Spouse's last name - District EASTRY County Kent Country England Volume 2A Page 2052
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Anthony
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5 Aug 2014 23:49 |
Thank you Kath, that is it. Thank you for the help
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Anthony
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5 Aug 2014 23:50 |
Shame Elizabeth's fathers details weren't there
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KathleenBell
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5 Aug 2014 23:54 |
This could be a possibility for Elizabeth's birth (right place according to the 1901 census entry):-
First name(s) Elizabeth Ann Last name Mitten Birth year 1879 Birth day 15 Birth month Sep Baptism year 1879 Baptism day 18 Baptism month Sep Place Whitstable, All Saints Father's first name(s) James Mother's first name(s) Charlotte Eliza County Kent Archive reference U3/131 Year range 1873-1897 Record set Canterbury Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain
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KathleenBell
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6 Aug 2014 00:00 |
GRO Reference for the above birth:-
First name(s) ELIZABETH ANN Last name MITTEN Birth year 1879 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name - District BLEAN County Kent Country England Volume 2A Page 797
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 01:15 |
Anthony
you normally have to buy the marriage certificate to get any more information
but the absence of her father's name from that entry implies that seh did not know it
was that because her father had died when she was very young or because she was illegitimate??
Only you can judge that, by buying the certificate and seeing what other information might be on there
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 01:25 |
Here is Elizabeth in 1881
1881 Census
Name: Elizabeth A. Milton [Elizabeth A. Mitten] Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Gender: Female Where born: Whitstable, Kent, England Civil Parish: Eythorne County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Street End
Registration district: Eastry Sub-registration district: Eythorn
James J. Fitzgerald 26 b.ca 1855, Eastry, Coachman (Domestic) Annie Fitzgerald 25 b.ca 1856, Chalk Hill, Gloucestershire Elizabeth A. Milton 1 Adopted Daughter
and probably alos in 1891 ......... but note that is another Mitten child
1891 Census
Name: Elizabeth Mitten Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Whitstable, Kent, England Civil Parish: Thursley Ecclesiastical parish: Thursley Town: Clayhill County/Island: Surrey Country: England
Registration district: Hambledon Sub-registration district: Witley ED, institution, or vessel: 10
John Wallace 72 Clerk in Holy Orders Marian K J A Wallace 65 Wife Caroline Greenway 74 Sister-in-Law Elita Maud Wallace 34 Daughter Mary Irene Wallace 29 Daughter Emily A Greenway 23 Cook Domestic Ellen Moorey 15 Domestic Housemaid James J Fitzgerald 36 Married, Coachman Annie Fitzgerald 35 Married, Domestic Housemaid Elizabeth Mitten 11 Boarder Lily Mary Mitten 20 b.ca 1871, Hawkhurst, Kent, Parlour Maid
Address:- Weysprings
so was Elizabeth allowed to be there because she was Lily's sister???
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 01:34 |
A tree on ancestry ......................... without much documentation .............. shows the following
Elizabeth Ann Mitten Birth 15 Sep 1879 in Whitstable, Kent, England Death 27 Dec 1965 in Dover, Kent, England
Parents
James Mitten 1852 –
Charlotte Eliza Fitzgerald 1843 – 1879
Siblings
Lily Mary Mitten 1870 –
Minnie Mitten 1871 –
Albert Mitten 1872 –
Edward Joseph Mitten 1875 –
Charlotte Eliza Fitzgerald Birth 25 Apr 1843 in Lambeth Death 15 Sep 1879 in Whitstable, Kent, England
IF this is accurate ..................... Charlotte died the same day that she gave birth to Elizabeth Ann
Marriage to James Mitten 1870 12 Jun — Age: 27 Kent, United Kingdom
going back to the 1881 Census ........... Elizabeth is shown as the Adopted daughter of James J Fitzgerald and wife Annie
Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%) FITZGERALD James John Eastry 2a 1572 SCRIVENS Annie Eastry 2a 1572
from that same tree on ancestry ......................
James John Fitzgerald was brother to Charlotte Mitten ..................
James John Fitzgerald Birth abt 1855 in Eastry, Kent, England Death 1935 in Elham, Kent
Please do not accept this information as completely accurate ........................ there is no documentation shown on the tree,.
You should attempt to prove it all is true.
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 01:47 |
and here is Elizabeth Ann Mitten in 1901 ............ as Bessie, and with a small child
1901 Census
Name: Bessie Mitten Age: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Whitstable, Norfolk, England [Whitstable, Kent, England] Civil Parish: Woodnesborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Poulton County/Island: Kent Country: England
Registration district: Eastry Sub-registration district: Sandwich ED, institution, or vessel: 15
George Hatcher 56 b.ca 1845, Bridge, Kent Bessie Mitten 21 Housekeeper Kate Hatcher 20 Charlotte Hatcher 14 Elizabeth Hatcher 12 Lucy Hatcher 10 Eva Hatcher 7 Hilda Mitten 10 Months
Address:- Dunn Court
There was also apparently another child ............ Olive Mitten
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 01:48 |
I'll follow this up later .........
......... but it seems that Elizabeth Ann was George's 3rd wife
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 04:08 |
Olive Mitten Birth 15 Feb 1898 in Union Work House Minster Kent England Death 1898 in St Peters Church St Leonards Hastings East Sussex England
Births Mar 1898 (>99%) Mitten Olive Thanet 2a 942
Deaths Sep 1898 (>99%) Mitten Olive 0 Thanet 2a 642
Births Jun 1900 (>99%) Mitten Hilda Grace Thanet 2a 967
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 04:21 |
:-D :-D :-D
It is Hatcher on the image of the 1911, and Elizabeth's age has been transcribed incorrectly ........... it is 31 on the image
1911 Census
Name Age George Harcher 66 Elizabeth Harcher 51 Hilda Mary Harcher 10 Percy Harcher 9 Lilian Harcher 7 Irene Harcher 5 Florence Harcher 3
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 04:32 |
Other apparent wives of George Hatcher
1871 Census
Name Age George Hatcher 25 Maria Hatcher 20 Alfred Hatcher 2
possibly .................
Marriages Mar 1871 (>99%)
Cock Maria Blean 2a 795 Hatcher George Blean 2a 795
But Alfred was born in ca 1869, and is registered as Hatcher
This may be an earlier marriage for George ...............
Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%) HATCHER George Canterbury 2a 1243 OAKENFULL Rebecca Canterbury 2a 1243
Deaths Jun 1869 (>99%) Hatcher Rebecca 22 Canterbury 2a 397
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Deaths Dec 1895 (>99%) HATCHER Maria 46 Eastry 2a 541
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Anthony
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6 Aug 2014 09:31 |
This is all amazing. You have found out so much detail. Thank you so much for this. It's all very professional.
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SylviaInCanada
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6 Aug 2014 17:34 |
Anthony .............
you are very welcome!
We all do it because we love doing the research, and enjoy helping other members :-)
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