General Chat

Uxbridge and South Ruislip - not a bad little area for any MP to represent unless, of course, things are gone awry since I used to live there in my much younger days.

When I look at what Boris Johnson is doing in many areas of London - I am reminded of The Highland Clearances ;-)

Most grown up people can see right through Boris who is a clever opportunist playing populist politics.

The Prime Minister and current members of the Cabinet, including Theresa May may need to be on their guard from now on as the Mayor of London's spokesman has just confirmed that Boris Johnson has submitted his application to stand as the Tory candidate for Uxbridge and South Ruislip at 2015 General Election :-D

It has been reported wildly, that the guardian of our border controls, immigration controls, and policing, has ambitions to follow in the footsteps of a previous "female" leader of the Conservative Party - with the rumours that Boris may enter the arena the lady's ambitions have been dented, so to deal with that dent I have no doubt that we will read many more utterance (spin) from on high by TM in the coming months.

Alas Theresa May's choice of shoes would not be Mrs T's choice ;-)

'Stop & Search'.

TM is at it again.

history books are written by the winners and rarely tell the truth

RolloTheRed - no mention of 'England' in my earlier posting.

Life & times existed elsewhere too, if history books are to be believed.

I doubt that they can Ann, as many/most have British Citizenship by Birthright :-0

Edit - I refer of course to those born here. Immigrants wouldn't necessarily have British Citizenship. In that case they should be deported back to their country of origin, should they re-enter the UK.

take away British citizenship from these immigrants who choose to join these terrorist groups

England never had clans and tribes not even during its early days in the C5. Hankering after a past that never existed is very much a Celtic trait. Faux nostalgie is the basis of the Scottish referendum and quite devoid of logic.

It can make good entertainment though from Sutcliffe and Tolkien through to Willow and Game of Thrones.

Some historians have a hankering for the clan & tribe set-up of the ancient days.

Politics is the art of the possible.
Only it seems do maniacs attempt the impossible with the results seen in ISIL and other places.
Our politicians for all their faults are not maniacs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hAEvyERuyI

Personally I think politicians are very keen to do the talking but are very reluctant to do any walking :-|

The tricky thing for ministers is that once you have a law it may be tested in the courts. The present coalition has already come a cropper in the courts more than once.

How for instance would a court, following a law forbidding incitement to hate and murder, deal with this?

"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
Quran 9:5

Any number of fiction and political works would be affected by such laws. Indeed they are already with the thorny issue of screening classic movies and book reprints. Any such attempt at censorship will be seen off in the UK as has already happened with the failed attempt to license the press.
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Which is why you hear a lot of steam but see little action. It is simply not possible to pass laws to make people be nice to each other still less censor their views however reprehensible.

:-|

I'd prefer to hear from any Minister of what he/she had done.

I'm fed up listening to pointless political promises as to what a Minister is going to do.

But, of course, laws are only intended for others - not me. I think they are superfluous to my own existence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eobuu-IexvI

Current laws are sometimes misunderstood & therefore misapplied.

DazedConfused - that was my thoughts, many Acts of Parliament allow for them to be amended by the use of Statutory Instruments, this means that usually there is no requirement for Parliament to pass a new Act - so why are new laws needed, can current laws not be amended, or were they not thought through correctly in the first place :-S

If the law was adhered to and enforced by the Police etc., there would be no need for any new laws or enforcements.

Just do not understand......