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Are you clued up on the new rules due to take effect 1 Oct 14? If not could cost you money!

http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/New-road-tax-discs-drivers-know-avoid-1-000-fine/story-22731680-detail/story.html

My friend has a car through the DLA which comes off her DLA allowance every month.

Just wondering if the garage will still be responsible for paying her car tax like they have for years,,

From 1 October 2014, the paper tax disc will no longer need to be displayed on a vehicle windscreen. If you have a tax disc with any months left to run after this date, then it can be removed from the vehicle windscreen and destroyed. Customers with a Northern Ireland address will still need to display their MoT disc.

There is a video available (Goodbye to the tax disc) which explains that the tax disc will no longer be issued from 1 October 2014. You can watch the video on our YouTube channel.


What this means to you

To drive or keep a vehicle on the road you will still need to get vehicle tax and DVLA will still send you a renewal reminder when your vehicle tax is due to expire. This applies to all types of vehicles including those that are exempt from payment of vehicle tax.

Buying a vehicle

From 1 October, when you buy a vehicle, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferred with the vehicle. You will need to get new vehicle tax before you can use the vehicle.

You can tax the vehicle using the New Keeper Supplement (V5C/2) part of the vehicle registration certificate (V5C) online or by using our automated phone service - 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Alternatively, you may wish to visit a Post Office® branch.

Selling a vehicle

If you sell a vehicle after 1 October and you have notified DVLA, you will automatically get a refund for any full calendar months left on the vehicle tax.

Vehicle tax refunds

You will no longer need to make a separate application for a refund of vehicle tax. DVLA will automatically issue a refund when a notification is received from the person named on DVLA vehicle register that the:
•vehicle has been sold or transferred
•vehicle has been scrapped at an Authorised Treatment Facility
•vehicle has been exported
•vehicle has been removed from the road and the person on the vehicle register has made a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN)
•person on the vehicle register has changed the tax class on the vehicle to an exempt duty tax class

Paying vehicle tax by Direct Debit

From 1 October 2014 (5 October if setting up at a Post Office®), Direct Debit will be offered as an additional way to pay for vehicle tax. This will be available for customers who need to tax their vehicle from 1 November 2014:
•annually
•6 monthly
•monthly (12 months tax paid for on a monthly basis)

Provided an MOT remains valid, the payments will continue automatically until you tell DVLA to stop taking them or you cancel the Direct Debit with your bank. Valid insurance should also be in place for vehicles registered in Northern Ireland.

The Direct Debit will be cancelled and payments automatically stopped when you tell DVLA that you no longer have the vehicle, or the vehicle has been taken off the road and a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) has been made.

When the Direct Debit scheme can’t be used

Paying by Direct Debit will not be available to:
•first registration vehicles
•fleet schemes
• HGVs (paying the Road User Levy)

Checking the tax status of a vehicle

You can check the tax status of any vehicle online. This can also be used for rental vehicles.

What they haven't worked out is parking for tax exempt cars. Up until now the disk made it clear that the vehicle was exempt and thus eligible for free parking. So far dvla suggest parking wardens use some kind of on line lookup! They also leave each la does its own thing so tuf if u need to park in another town. Many rural UK drivers won't encounter ANPR in years eg Norfolk so expect an explosion in cars "off road" Yet another daft idea from the silly party.

It used to be an offence to display an out of date tax disc.
my car is taxed until end of june next year.

I DONT intend taking it out of the tax holder.......
and If I have it correctly online tax buying will result in a receipt being issued....if so, THAT will go into the tax disc holder,( if it'll fit!)

as said there are many ANPR cameras in MY area dotted all over the place, dual carriageways main routes into out of town, town bridge etc....I don't really see how "anyone" would get away with evasion for long.....

Don't think we'll bother to remove the current tax disc (unless it falls off again)

It might be a good idea to keep the receipt for the renewed one in the glove box...just in case of arguements.

I do not pay car tax, I get it free with DLA.....I have never been able to park free with just my disc....how many traffic wardens are going to read that?

We pay our road tax by direct debit and don't have a disc or anything visible to say the tax is paid.

We do have a small sticker on the top of the windscreen, passenger side, saying when the next MOT is due. With so many rent a cars here at least you can see that they are deemed to be road worthy.

Dvla is now considering issuing a Qr code for tax exempt vehicles which will be printed on a disk to be placed in the windscreen. the traffic warden will read the code with an app. Lo.

I have always thought you needed to show a blue badge..... But what do I know

...Well, the new system seems succinct, to the point and soooooo much easier - NOT.
Bl**dy ex public school boys in suits attached to a mobile again - Hey, Tristam, I've got a wheeze..... :-| :-|

By far the biggest impact will be on the second hand car market as it will no longer be possible to transfer remaining periods of the tax with the car as these are refunded back to the seller.

This means the buyer will need to make arrangements to tax the car before it can be driven away.

Tax exempt cars, reason disabled, do not pay London congestion charge. They are also able to park free in municipal car parks. Some commercial carparks also. Cars in this category may only be used for stuff related to the disabled person. For instance not for partner to get to work. The disabled person does not have to be present. When this is the case there are no blue badge privileges and the badge must not be displayed. The blue badge of itself has no free parking rights. If a ticket is issued because the warden did not read the tax disk it will always be cancelled.

I was wondering about the buying and selling of cars from a private individual. Will you be able to buy a car and take it home the same day. If not where will it be kept

Technically probably not, but as long as you have the paper work and are driving it home to park off- road, there is likely to be a bit of latitude. It does need to be insured.
We've driven cars from the dealer via the petrol station to the post office. But then our route doesn't take us passed any (known) cameras.

Small post offices in the back of shops are going to take a hit. Another revenue stream will dry up.

yeah, I always thought that the tax applied to the car, not the owner(or) driver.

but it will stop the " buy a car with tax on it" and run it without insurance or licence brigade......


note, the seller will only get a refund AFTER he has notified DVLA...for any FULL calendar months.

how often in the past, has it happened that notifying doesn't happen immediately its sold on?

The new system is all on line so supposedly you can tax it on the spot from say a smart phone. As to whether the smart people who design govt computer systems have fully allowed for the transaction volume only time will tell. Same for whether the ANPR system will suffice.

does Everyone have a smart phone? I don't!

We don't have smart phones,and there are still a number of people who don't have Internet access. Neither do they trust it to pay bills. :-D

Just remembered that the inlaws tax is due to run out in November - as he is going to stop driving in the next 12 months, we'll have to 'educate' him about the changes. A monthly DDR might be best for him.

the new system also offers pay at post office or by phone (prem rate long wait) to dvla. There is also a direct debit pay monthly option. To tax instantly tho online is only option unless dvla have massively ug their phone support. People who try to stay with trad paper/phone systems are going to find life increasingly expensive and frustrating.