General Chat

;-) ;-) ;-)
though I will admit
I think they may have bitten more than they can chew
when reality dawns on them :-D :-D

ah well


GR did see sense :-D

thank you Sylvia :-D :-D

Joy

I had seen your post before it was RR'd .............



that was what made me post what I did, about you expressing your own opinion :-D

Radicalization abroad or grooming at home - which is worst?

Either way, many people are hurt mentally & physically.

Reports from a couple of days ago suggest that they were escorted across the Syrian border.

http://tiny.cc/i9zwux
Links to an article in the Guardian - there was also a similar item on the BBC news

Still no news of the three girls last sighted in Istanbul


by the way my RR was over ruled
and you can all now see for yourselves what I put :-D :-D

I don't know whether it still applies ..........


but until about 20 years ago, if my husband wanted to take our "under age" daughter out of Canada without me being present ................ I had to provide a letter stating that I had consented to the travel.


The letter did not HAVE to be shown, but he could be asked to produce it before leaving Canada.


She'd had her own passport since the age of 9 months :-)

Not too many years ago I took my step daughter (aged 12 or 13 at the time) to Cairo, flying out of Heathrow with BA.
Nobody asked any questions, here or there.
I had a visa and resident's permit in my passport, but she didn't have a visa as we planned on getting that on arrival at Cairo.
I don't have my husband's name, so it wasn't even as though we had the same surname!!

It didn't strike me as odd at the time, but now,thinking about it, did nobody wonder if I wasn't kidnapping her (God forbid!!! ;-) )

To go back to travel if you all remember my niece came out to see me on her own at the age of 14. She was limited as to what airlines she could travel on. This year at 16 she will be able to travel on any airline. :-D

I've just been listening to a item on the radio about a girl who went from Canada to Syria last year


She was 23, not 15 or 16, but was young for her age (so her sister said!).

The story as pieced together may prove enlightening.

She started talking to an "older" woman online, and began studying the Koran with her, then gradually moved to wearing a niqab.

One day she left home while everyone else was at work. The police followed her trail from one airport to another in Canada, then to Barcelona (less suspicious than Turkey!), to Turkey, and eventually a tweet from Syria to say she would never come home.

It turns out our secret service knew about the "older" woman who was radicalizing younger women. That they had known about this young woman, they had even trailed her for a time.

But the important thing was that it is believed that the "older" woman planned and paid for the trip to Syria.



Maybe that last bit of information is what happened to these 3 young girls?



Mind you ................ I'm not sure that too many people selling tickets at airports or a travel agent might have been trained enough to spot these girls in potential danger, and to know what to do.


People do pay in cash, for all kinds of reasons.

This is from the Citizens Advice Bureau: "If you apply for a credit card when you are under 18, you will have your application turned down" So how did they buy the tickets? using cash over the counter at the airport - would look very suspicious!! and nobody queried it? I think a lot of questions need answering, particularly from the UK side.

OOOOPS never mind
not like its the first time I've been RRed


I think I can live with that :-D :-D :-D

I don't know if any of you watched the interview with one of the girls father's.

The reporter asked him""Have you ever talked to your daughter about the situation in Syria and what is going on there.""

The father said ""We never talked about anything like that and she wouldn't DARE ask about it""

Now that sounds to me like she couldn't discuss anything in her home enviroment with the family.

The father was so adamant that she wouldn't go to Syria.

Maybe this father brought the disappearance of his daughter on himself...

so naïve, so misguided - God help them

So sad. What awful lives lie ahead of them.

just been watching BBC World News ............... they reckon the girls crossed into Syria days ago.

They're probably married by now

do gooders unite...........protect us adult sinners from evil words.......


get a bloody life!!!

oh, for heavens sake!


who RR'd Joy's post ............................


she was just expressing HER opinion,


England and GR are still zones of free speech, so far as I know.

It's incomprehensible to me.

I suppose it is just as simple as brainwashing when it comes down to it? ...like teenagers who run away from home to join a cult ( lots of that in the 70s/80s?) but usually I think that is because the 'cult' seems somehow better and offers something they don't have at home...beats me what this 'cult' offers anyone...especially women.