General Chat

Gareth I know you're keen to get your tree started but if you get Fred's parents wrong then the rest of your tree will also be wrong.

Most of us have been researching for years; we could post information on Harry but in this case it's not in your best interests as we could be leading you on completely the wrong trail.

So please take the advise given and do nothing more until you've bought Fred's birth cert.

Once you have the cert then add to this thread and someone will give you as much help as they can but you will need to buy further certs in the future.

Where have you got the new info from, you were convinced his mother was Gladys and 20 years younger yesterday

How do you know Harry was born 1890 Burton? .....where and when did they die?

If they are his parents you need the marriage cert to see who they name as their fathers

we have found freds dad now which jax was right it was a Louisa and harry :-) we are now after harrys dad name etc, or even maiden name, complete dead lock now, any help on this would reali be appreciated not quite sure where to go from here

harry mellor DOB:1890 place of birth burton on trent

thankyou very much for any help or advise people can provide,

her death certificate would not show mother's maiden name .................. at least not in 1971.

But if you are not sure of the birth year it could be this ne


Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1917
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
HENSHAW Gladys M Wolstanton Newcastle-Under-Lyme

Births Dec 1917 (>99%)

Henshaw Gladys M Johnson Wolstanton 6b 109

As posted above by Sylvia, the Glady Henshaw born 1915 has mother's maiden name Davies

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Henshaw Gladys Davies Walsall 6b 1398

The GRO index only shows the mothers maiden name on entries after Sep 1911. It's odd that her birth reg doesn't show her mmn if she was deffinatively born after then.


This is an alternative site for Staffordshire BMD
http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/

new information
fred mellors mother was called Gladys henshaw year born was around 1915 death age 1971
main thing we are stuck on now is it isnt showing Gladys henshaw mothers maidem name ?
why could this be ?

If it was a second marriage to Mellor this Gladys Henshaw marriage is in the right area Marriages Sep 1928 (>99%)

Henshaw Gladys Lowe Newcastle L. 6b 125
LOWE John A Henshaw Newcastle L.

Possible death ?

Deaths Jun 1934 (>99%)
Lowe John A 30 Stoke T. 6b 188

we need the birth certificate to be sure of her name!!

Could this be the marriage? Were there other children as this couple had quite a lot

Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)

Henshaw Louisa M Mellor Burton 6b 632 Sc
Mellor Harry Henshaw burton 6b 632

Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
Henshaw Louisa May Uttoxeter 6b 351

I really do think that you have to buy Fred's birth certificate ...... that will us his parents' full names, and a better chance of finding them.

I have found birth registrations for two Gladys Henshaw's born in Staffordshire between 1909 and 1915

One was born in 1909,

but this one is the one in 1915

Walsall is the Registration District


Births Jun 1915 (>99%)

Henshaw Gladys Davies Walsall 6b 1398



I still cannot find a Gladys Henshaw married to a male Mellor




There are 2 possibilities .........


1. Gladys had been married before, and her married name was used on her marriage to Mr Mellor .............. until we know that, it is almost impossible to find her


2. Gladys and Mr Mellor did not marry, but lived common-law. He was acknowledged as the father of Fred, and hence his name is on the birth certificate.



There is a record of a Gladys Henshaw who married a Mr Barnard in 1935, and dying in 2003 who could be the one born in 1915 or not


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Gladys Barnard
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1915
Date of Registration: Apr 2003
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Register Number: B67A
District and Subdistrict: 075/1B
Entry Number: 85


In which case, she is probably not yours!

apparent birth date 1911-1915

apparently Gladys was from Newcastle under lym

thankyou very much for the reply, ive just been told that we think fred mellors mothers first name was Gladys henshaw, but still not 100percent on her mothers full name,

Gareth ..............


waht you find is the INDEX to biorth registrations, which shows the birth name of the baby and the maiden name of the mother (if after July 1911).

To see any other information you really do have to buy the birth certificate ....... which costs £9.25 from the General Records Office.


First, most of the members who help on here, find it much easier to use another site for birth (marriage and death) registrations ........ we use the free site

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


On there, I found this as the only birth fro a Fred Mellor in Staffordshire around 1935

Births Dec 1935 (>99%)

Mellor Fred Henshaw Uttoxeter 6b 423


This shows that his mother's maiden name was Henshaw



Now we have to look to see if we can find a male Mellor marrying a female Henshaw, which would give a hint as to Fred's mother's full name



I cannot find a male Mellor marrying a female Henshaw anywhere in England or Wales between 1920 and 1945 ................ so now we are stuck!


It seems that you might have to buy that birth certificate, unless someone else can find the information on another site for you.



To order the certificate, go to

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

you have to register, but it is free

click on Order Certificates Online


follow instructions


when it asks if you have the GRO registration number, click on YES ........... that's the set of 2 numbers after Uttoxeter, ie 6b 423


The certificate will cost £9.25 including post and handling

but the problem is I don't reali have any idea of the first names. only maiden names so it just a guessing game :(

hi im after more information on FRED MELLOR/ STAFFORDSHIRE/ birth date 1935
im after more information on his parents and there parents, cenus records etc, but I can not seem to find anything at all :-( its just popping up as maiden names etc I cant seem to get any further, very new to all this
any help would but much appreciated

Welcome to the boards Gareth

If you could give us some idea of the years you are looking at maybe we can help