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If the grandchildren of my grandparents siblings are my second cousins, what are the children of my grandfather's half-brother? Are they half second cousins? :-S
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Find out what their names are and just call them that.
For example.........If one of them is called John.......just call him John!
Then.........move on with your life. Take up knitting or something.
:-D :-D
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On my Ancestry tree they are listed as 2nd cousins.
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My Familytree Maker lists them as half second cousins.
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I see there has been some debate on this
http://200inparadise.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/half-cousins-are-they-really-just.html
I'm not sure; but I think half second cousin sounds about right. :-S
Now where did I put my knitting needles? :-S :-D
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FAMILY RELATIONSHIP TERMS.
Sometimes, especially when working on your family history, it's handy to know how to describe your family relationships more exactly. The definitions below should help you out.
Cousin (a.k.a "first cousin") :
Your first cousins are the people in your family who have two of the same grandparents as you. In other words, they are the children of your aunts and uncles.
Second Cousin:
Your second cousins are the people in your family who have the same great-grandparents as you., but not the same grandparents.
Third, Fourth, and Fifth Cousins:
Your third cousins have the same great-great-grandparents, fourth cousins have the same great-great-great-grandparents, and so on.
Removed :
When the word "removed" is used to describe a relationship. It indicates that the two people are from different generations. You and your first cousins are in the same generation (two generations younger than your grandparents), so the word "removed" is not used to describe your relationship.
The words "once removed" mean that there is a difference of one generation. For example, your mother's first cousin is your first cousin, once removed. This is because your mother's first cousin is one generation younger than your grandparents and you are two generations younger than your grandparents. This one-generation difference equals "once removed."
Twice removed means that there is a two-generation difference. You are two generations younger than a first cousin of your grandmother, so you and your grandmother's first cousin are first cousins, twice removed.
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You will be aware that a good tip when researching is to remember that many Irish & Scottish families adhered to a particular naming pattern for several hundred years. Sometimes this can help us narrow our particular ancestors down a little.
1st son was named after paternal Grandfather;
2nd son was named after maternal Grandfather;
1st daughter was named after maternal Grandmother;
2nd daughter was named after paternal Grandmother;
Further siblings after that being named after other siblings and cousins.
The Right Name For The Right Cousin Conversation on the subject 'who is related to whom' bogs down over terminology, particularly when it comes to defining cousins.
Your first cousin is your parents' brother's or sister's child. However, the first cousin's child is not your second cousin, but your first cousin one removed. The child of the first cousin once removed is your first cousin twice removed, and his child is your first cousin three times removed.
Your second cousin is your grandparents' brother's or sister's grandchild. That second cousin's child is your second cousin once removed, and his child is your second cousin twice removed, and so on.
Your third cousin is your great-grandparents' brother's or sister's great-grandchild. The third cousin's child is your third cousin once removed, and his child is your third cousin twice removed.
Other Occasionally Misunderstood Terms:-
Siblings: Parents in common, brothers and sisters.
Grandnephew and Grandniece: the grandchild of your brother or sister.
Grandaunt or Granduncle: the brother or sister of your grandparent.
Great-Grandaunt or Great-Granduncle: the sister or brother of your great-grandparents.
Stepfather or Stepmother: the husband of your mother or the wife of your father by a subsequent marriage.
Stepchild: the child of your husband or wife by a former marriage.
Stepsister or Stepbrother: the child of your stepfather or stepmother.
Half Sister or Half Brother: the child of your mother and stepfather or the child of your father and stepmother, or of either parent by a former marriage.
In-Laws: your connections by the law of marriage (as distinct from relatives by blood) in particular, your husband's or wife's relatives and your own brother's wife or sister's husband.
Ancestor: the person from whom you descend directly, such as a grandparent or a great-grandparent.
Descendant: the person who descends directly from you, such as a grandson or granddaughter.
Lineal Relations: those in a direct line of ascent or descent, such as a grandfather or granddaughter.
Collateral Relations: those relatives who are linked by a common ancestor, such as aunts, uncles, or cousins.
All clear now?
*From the Web under Half cousins:
Half-siblings share only one parent. Extrapolating from that, if one of John's parents and one of Mary's parents are half-siblings, then John and Mary are half-first cousins.
The half-sibling of each of their respective parents would be their half-aunt or half-uncle but these terms, although technically specific, are rarely used in practice.
While it would not be unusual to hear of another's half-brother, or half-sister, so described, in common usage one would rarely hear of another's half-cousins or half-aunt, so described, and instead hear them described simply as the other's cousin or aunt.
And children of half-first cousins are half-second cousins to each other and so on because they would share only one common great-grandparent out of eight instead of two.
Any clearer Graham? My head hurts now!!
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Just decided I will never be wheedled like that again.
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