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apparently the translations were rather bad, and not just in the language sense ... e.g. an entire character omitted from one book who then appeared inexplicably in the next!

I'm getting tempted to get hold of one myself for summer reading in my lovely new garden :-)

I really must re-read those books ..................

I've just read the synopsis of the first 2 books published on good reads quite recently (ie, based on the 1996 editions)


hmmmmmmmmmm



doesn't sound anything like the books I read!

Thank you Ann! I don't have her back yet ... someone has to go and get her by plane train or automobile ... haven't worked that out yet but she is safe at the neighbour's for a few days ...

Sylvia apparently the 'Serge' of Sergeanne did the research, and the 'Anne' did the writing, so yes, all historically accurate I'm sure :-)

I read this about them yesterday

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/04/1116709/-Books-So-Bad-They-re-Good-the-Ang-lique-Phenomenon

and the whole story reminded me of this true life one I saw in another forum a few months ago

http://www.damninteresting.com/welcome-to-the-jungle/

(long but interesting historical tale about a European woman in the Amazon rainforest c1750)

and I thought the same thing about that heroine as the dailykos author thought about Angélique ... all about her getting what she wants and who else dies in the process, who cares!

I would have you know those books had some very serious historical aspects to them :-)


Actually, I was buying them as paperbacks in the early 60s, up to the time we left the UK in 1967. I don't think I bought any after we came over here ....................


but the covers are nowhere near as racy as those I've just seen on the internet!!!



I guess I must have the first editions .............. and thus the first translations!

So pleased she's been caught :-D :-D :-D

I'm afraid no Hoare's in the immediate family, though there's a Hoare firm of builders in Fareham who may be vaguely related.
My Hoares were definitely Hampshire based.

Just looked at the Angelique books. Are they as 'uplifting' as the covers suggest? :-D :-D :-S

:-D :-D :-D :-D

so very pleased you now have pussums back <3

Rose when I get her home she is going to get a very good talking to, from both me and her mother I expect, although her mother will probably be as happy to see her as she was to see the other one when she got home from the vet

... i.e. not at all :-)


Syvlia, Angelique, a serious person such as yourself? I am shocked, I tell you.

oh and the Hoares maggie ... if you have a male-line descendant in the back of a closet somewhere, our surname project would dearly love to have him get his DNA tested to try to advance our Hoare research

we do have a Hoare who was born in St Enodor and ended up in Dorset in the late 1700s (not the same clan as the one mine belongs to, according to the DNA) ... but we have no Hampshire Hoares in the project

we seem to have Cornwall Hoares (various spellings) and Devon Hoars who are not closely related, interestingly

my immediate male rellie tested for me, and miraculously got the close match with the Roche/St Austell crowd with a pedigree back to the 1500s, but I can get nowhere on paper myself ...

Really pleased to hear that the cat has been caught :-)




I also liked the Angelique books .............. in fact I still have them :-)

Really pleased to hear it Joonie, I hope when you get her home she settles in nicely :-)

The cat is caught! Yaaay. The neighbours now have her and I will decide who will go fetch her in the next few days, and how ...

maggie, you reminded me of the Angélique books my best friend in high school was completely mad for (I don't think I ever read one) ... and it turns out there is quite the Angélique cult and there were still three books left to be translated into English ... I got back in touch with the friend a couple of years ago and I may just see whether it has happened yet and surprise her with them

go to google images and ask for

angelique sergeanne golon

and you'll see covers that are a bit 'racy' :-)

... I think they must have been less so in the day because I know my friend got them at the library and that was in the 60s

... oh my lord, I see there are now translations, and when Angélique goes to New France the book is called 'In the Land of the Redskins'

somebody needs new translators



anyway,

THE CAT IS CAUGHT, YAAAAY!

:-D :-D :-D :-D

I've never read them either.
They belonged to my mum's second husband :-0

(known between my siblings - and their are four of us - as 'El Fuhrer' or 'El Fascisti') Not solely because his political allegiances were totally different to ours :-D

oh ............... I remember seeing those books in certain book stores. Never actually bought, or read, any of them :-)

Judging by the covers, Ann - yes 'racy' and, I've no doubt verging on a 'Me Tarzan - You Jane' attitude!! :-|

Hank Janson - that brings back memories from my teens - they were rather racy books if I recall - well probably not racy by today's standards, but for a teenager in the 50's, very alluring :-D

Joonie, I'm getting rid of the war books and nasty sexist things by Hank Janson first - I know I'll never read them.
Then I may 'advance' to the others that are just drying out in the central heating. :-D

Just noticed you've got Hoares in your tree. So have I, but my Hoares were in Hampshire. I also have ancestors from St Austell, Probus, Kea, Ruanlanihorne and Lanivet, - generally around the tin mines of that area - but they were Johnson and Truran.

Hope your neighbour is successful tonight - at least the cat is still there!! :-D

let's hope it works and he catches her

and the latest news ...

a neighbour on the street we have left to whom I had not spoken for several years (long and unpleasant story) ... my mum suggested she ask him to assist, since in the past I had helped a lot with their cats (I was the expert on 'pilling' cats) and my mum had met them a few times

so she phoned them and chatted and he leapt into action in conjunction with the crotchety controlling cat lady and my mum and he were emailing about what to do ... and I finally emailed them my thanks too, much as it galls me

he got a key from the new owner and has been going in and feeding the cat after the workers leave but wasn't able to catch her

they set the trap last night ... when he asked what the cat liked to eat, I said just dry food, but maybe a tin of tuna in the trap would be a good idea

today he reports (he is native Italian speaking)

'very, very smart cat; she eat the tuna and the dry food that we place prior to the cage but she did not go in!'

mm hm, well, and why would she go IN the cage (trap) when you put the tuna OUTSIDE (in front of) the cage??? :-S

so I have gently pointed this out to him, and they will be trying again tonight ...


books, maggie, I'm afraid my heirs, successors and assigns are going to have to deal with mine :-)

you just never know when you might want to read that Margery Allingham again ... or when you might get around to reading some of the many many you have picked up over the years or been given and just not got around to reading ...

that's what retirement will be for, right? :-D

Forgot to mention - Mickie was an extremely aggressive moo. She'd claw you as soon as look at you. The only people who could do anything with her were my dad and me - and I used to dress her up in doll's clothes (probably why I still have a nasty scar). The pensioners she moved in with reported back that she was a lovely, gentle cat. :-S :-S
Joonie, you know where the cat is - that's a bonus :-D

As for 30 years worth of 'stuff' - I know where you're coming from.
I moved 28 times before I moved here, 25 years ago, and I've collected soooooo many books. I blame my mother. The only book she ever kept whenever we moved was an Enid Blyton book. I hate Enid Blyton books.
I'm now galvanising myself to sell them on e-bay. Even at £1 a book (+ P&P), I will make a small fortune, and I know some are worth more.
I'm starting with 4 boxes of books, somehow 'acquired' from my mum's husband (the fascist) - all war books - but someone will like them.
The ones I've bought throughout the years are more interesting :-D
But they have to go too - eventually,

I hope your cat can be trapped. I'm sure she'd rather be with her mummy. At least if they can catch her soon, you will have nearly settled in, and things will be less hectic.

My least favourite day (possibly 'unlucky') isn't Friday 13th but Thursday 14th - and I have no reason why!!