Vestry Carman

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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,048 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	18 May 2015 05:36
	Interesting!!!!!!!! A similar question has been raised before on GR http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/792092 OP .............. ---------- MrsMooMoo Report 1 Mar 2006 17:37 I wonder if anyone can help me. I have been researching my Vickery family who hail from paddington. In the 1901 census, George the head of the house is found at the Royal Mineral Hospital in Bath having, I presume some treatment. Now my family appear to have been very poor so do you think it is likely that the vestry would have paid for this! I'm sure George wouldn't have been able to afford the trip there, let alone any treatment! I was wondering whether it would be possible to locate any record of George working for the church, If I could find out which one? Would they keep records of their carman do you think? I would appreciate any advice. Thankyou Merry Monty Report 1 Mar 2006 17:48 Yes, it does say ''Vestry Carman (Paddington)'', Heather..... George Vickery abt 1851 Paddington, Middlesex, England Patient Bath Somerset Merry ------ This particular guy is seemingly describer as "Carman" on the 1891 Census. ------------ Another response to the meaning of "Vestry Carman" found by Gogling ..... ------- Any suggestions please, on what exactly a Vestry Carman in Lambeth was. The 'Vestry' was the somewhat oldfashioned name for the local council (for the borough or civil parish), a hangover from when the old parish adminsirators met in or near the church vestry. By 1895, they would be meeting in the town hall, but the old word hung on.. He was then a heavy carter employed by the local council, possibly as a dustman, possibly transporting heavy goods too and fron for them. ------ and another (my emphasis by capitalizing the words) ........... http://wellcomelibrary.org/moh/report/b18249590/132#?asi=0&ai=132 ......... The recommendations suggested by the conjoint Sub-Committee of the Sanitary and Wharf Committees and adopted by the Vestry on the 9th December, 1897, are fully set out on pages 1662-3 and 1689 of the 1897 Minutes. They have reference to all descriptions of Trade Refuse (excepting offal, builders' refuse, and manure) being moved at a uniform charge of twopence per basket, the VESTRY'S CARMAN being supplied with a small book and counterfoil to act as a check for the quantity of refuse removed. Particulars of such removal were sent round by circular to grocers, provision dealers, etc.; whilst in respect of Trade Refuse left in the streets by costermongers, the ........ -------
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,048 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	18 May 2015 05:14
	I have also responded on your other thread .... http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1352031 I do know what happened .. and there is no point in getting mad at us!! What happened was that your query was slow to post so you hit Submit again. It was still slow, so you hit Submit again That means the same query was actually submitted 3 times ............ hence 3 different threads, numbered consecutively ........ general_chat/thread/1352030 general_chat/thread/1352031 general_chat/thread/1352032 In future, you must resist the impulse to keep hitting Submit!! It does not speed up the action, but it does result in duplicate threads appearing! To see what we are talking about .......... look to the left of your screen, there is a box headed Tools Click on that, and it will show a listing of all threads that you have started or on which you have posted.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,504 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	17 May 2015 10:16
	Click on the thread refs given in my post and it will take you to the other threads
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Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	17 May 2015 10:16
	Click on the blue hyperlinks Shirley has posted. Sometimes these things happen when you get an error message. You don't think your Post has 'posted' so retype and submit again.
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Member Since: January 2015 Posts: 9 Send Message	Alexandra	Report	17 May 2015 10:12
Member Since: January 2015 Posts: 9 Send Message	I have no idea what's going on. I only posted this query once, and I can only see one from my end.
Member Since: January 2003 Posts: 49,504 Send Message	Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it	Report	17 May 2015 09:29
	You do have two more posts asking the same thing I replied on this one too giving a possible explanation http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1352031 This is the other one http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1352030
	Researching: Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957
Member Since: May 2003 Posts: 20,651 Send Message	maggiewinchester	Report	17 May 2015 09:29
	Hi Alexandra, Shirley has given an answer at 6:28. It appears, when you submitted the question about Vestry Carman, it appeared 3 times.
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Member Since: January 2015 Posts: 9 Send Message	Alexandra	Report	17 May 2015 09:19
Member Since: January 2015 Posts: 9 Send Message	No, you may not suggest that I delete them. I don't have 2 other posts regarding this. My other posts are regarding something entirely different. This post is a simple question of what does the term "Vestry Carman" mean. I've come across it and would like to know what that job entailed.
Member Since: March 2007 Posts: 95,307 Send Message	Allan	Report	17 May 2015 05:40
	Alexandra, as you have two other posts regarding this may I suggest that you delete them and concentrate on this particular post. Do you have any details of the person who may have worked for the Council? A name would help, unless the person is still living. Kind regards Allan
Member Since: January 2015 Posts: 9 Send Message	Alexandra	Report	17 May 2015 04:04
Member Since: January 2015 Posts: 9 Send Message	Can somebody please tell me what a Vestry Carman would have done. I can't find a definite answer on Google. I've found that Vestry meant the Council. So I assume he worked for the Council (Fulham, London). What exactly would he have done?

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