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Esh isn't too far from Witton Gilbert so is this Thomas's birth


Name:
Thomas Glendening

Gender:
Male

Birth Date:
28 Sep 1766

Birth Place:
Esh, Durham, England

Father: William Glendening

Mother: Elizabeth

FHL Film Number 1885452

Gosh you, Patin Cyprus and Margee are working wonders. I suppose Thomas could have married Betty if Dorothy had died even though there was approx. 20 years difference in their ages, it wasn't uncommon practice, she could have been a daughter or she could have been a sisier, sister-in-law. Some of the above I had found. I thought the story of the puddings was a good one. I actually discounted Thomas and Dorothy because I was looking for Betty/Elizabeth, but now I see where you are coming from.

Thank you, thank you

Oops sorry, Pat, just noticed that you had already posted those deaths.

Possible death of a son of Thomas?


Thomas Glendinning

in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
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Name: Thomas Glendinning
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1820
Burial Date: 21 May 1840
Burial Place: Witton-Gilbert, Durham, England
FHL Film Number: 1514559
Reference ID: it 3 p 37

Possible death of Thomas?

Thomas Glendinning

in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
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Name: Thomas Glendinning
Gender: Male
Age: 71
Birth Date: 1765
Burial Date: 20 Aug 1836
Burial Place: Witton-Gilbert, Durham, England
FHL Film Number: 1514559
Reference ID: it 3 p 31

Birth of Ralph who died in Witton Gilbert
Look at parents

Name Ralph Glendenning
Gender Male
Christening Date 21 May 1800
Christening Place ESH,DURHAM,ENGLAND
Birth Date 13 Mar 1800
Father's Name Thomas Glendenning
Mother's Name Dorothy

Good find, Pat! Now we know Mrs. Glendenning's husband's name.

Am back and look what I found :-D

Ref: D/Ph 110/28

Photograph of Front Street, Witton Gilbert, looking towards Lanchester, c.1900
In the left foreground is Albion House, now demolished; in the 1930s, the ground floor was used as a fish and chip shop, and the rest of the premises were used by the butcher next door as a store; the Glendinning Arms was almost certainly named after the publican who kept it in 1828, a stonemason called Thomas Glendinning; in the right foreground is the former Workmen's Club, now Hall's glass factory; Thomas Moralee, a hosier and photographer, who lived on Front Street was a founder member of the Club in 1908; in 1920, when the Club was paid for, Thomas Moralee was given a walking-cane with a silver band inscribed 'With gratitude for services rendered'
(1 photograph, 14 cm. x 9 cm., black and white)


http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/Pages/AdvancedSearchCatalogueDetail.aspx?SearchType=Param&SearchID=507c1ce8-37f2-4a18-a1cd-4586ab17068d&ItemID=169448

Another story abouty the sooty puddings from this site:

http://fast-trax.50megs.com/wgHistory.html

The Witton Gilbert Hotel, a building several storeys high, used to stand almost opposite the Labour Hall, but it has been pulled down. The public houses, all in the main thoroughfare are, "The Travellers Rest", "The Three Tuns", and The Glendenning Arms". In connection with the last named a curious incident occurred in 1893. Previous to this in 1797, an "Association for the Prosecution of Felons", had been formed, and it was customary for the members of this society to hold their annual meeting in January, near enough to Christmas to be an excuse for a banquet to following the business proceedings.

On January 7th, 1893 a day memorable in local history as "windy Monday", the members assembled in an ancient thatched cottage kept by Mrs. Betty Glendenning. The windstorm, which arose at daybreak, increased in violence as the day progressed, but did not prevent the members from attending their annual meeting. Plum puddings were an essential feature of banquets held around Yuletide, so the landlady had the puddings boiling merrily, when a furious blast of wind, tore off the chimneys, and a liberal dose of soot found its way into the huge pan. Nothing daunted, Mrs. Glendenning extracted the puddings, washed them carefully, and put them back to boil. Mr. Bragnall, who later, carved and distributed portions to the members declared they all retained an aroma of soot, but was careful to choose an interior portion for himself. Meanwhile, the gale increased in fury, and the thatched roof was lifted piecemeal into the air. Undismayed, the feast continued with members singing, and exchanging anecdotes. The hour of midnight passed unheeded, with the company still unbroken, even through the house was without a roof.

From this site:

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/history/4201215.The_changing_face_of_life_in_Witton_Gilbert/

Further west, the Glendenning Arms takes its name from a 19th century proprietor and it seems this pub was once a thatched building.

The thatched roof was blown off in a gale during the 19th century and the dislodged chimney stack apparently added a distinctly sooty flavour to the puddings that Mrs Glendenning calmly served to her guests.

I used family search.

You could also try www. Durhamrecordsonline .com

Try this site....

https://familysearch.org/

You may find more info on there.

Thank you PatinCyprus and Margee. You are right, she could have married a widower, her husband could have died early on in their marriage and she could have had children and they would have probably left home by the time we find her in 1841.
It is all very hitty- missy, isn't it? I appreciate your efforts.

This seems to be her in 1841, she's a publican. Seems to be living alone.


Eliz Glendening

in the 1841 England Census
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Name: Eliz Glendening
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1786
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England
Civil Parish: Witton Gilbert
Hundred: Chester (West Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Chester Le Street
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 302
Book: 15
Folio: 24
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliz Glendening 55

Haven't found any Christenings. There is a Glendinning/Glendenning family living there. Whether Elizabeth could have married Thomas after perhaps Dorothy died who knows. Maybe later children were her's. To be on her own if she'd lost her husband early in the marriage wouldn't be unusual as children could have been late 20s by then, married with children. Can't find probate to prove husband and or children.

Have to go will look at this later. Hope you find want you are looking for. :-)

Found these deaths in the area as Elizabeth is on her own in 1841 a publican.

A Thomas Glendinning married a Dorothy Dixon in 1797 in Witton Gilbert


Ralph Glendenning
England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991


birth 1800
burial:15 April 1831

Witton-Gilbert, Durham, England

Thomas Glendinning

birth:1765
burial:20 August 1836

Witton-Gilbert, Durham, England


Thomas Glendinning

birth:1820
burial 21 May 1840
Witton-Gilbert, Durham, England


William Glendinning

birth:1732
burial:1 March 1813
Witton-Gilbert, Durham, England

This cannot be the one PatinCyprus, it is more than likely that she is the one in the 1851 census at the age of 67 and a publican, also she is in Witton Gilbert, which would make sense. Like detective, I too, think she probably didn't have children

The wedding in 1819 was to Spark Glendenning and they are together with family in 1851, he's a farmer. Owns 260 acres and still in Stockton area.

Her death certificate might give the name of her deceased husband, if known to the informant. The informant may be a relative

You can order it from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ at a cost of £9.25 using the gro references 2 of us gave earlier.

I'm not convinced she had children, but depending the info given on the DC, you could play around with http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php

Given her age, the children would only be recorded as baptisms as they are likely to have been born before civil registration, ie Sep 1837. Even then it wasn't compulsary to register a birth until the 1870s. Many weren't.