General Chat

Would have made me feel better, Sharron.

Fifteen years back, I travelled to Scotland by train with a friend, a Mum of two, several years younger than me. I was being taken along to look after her children while she had some cosmetic dental treatment. Her son was about 7, he constantly kicked at the seat in front and my friend totally ignored his actions. I reprimanded him, explaining why it wasn't a good thing to do to the person in the seat. He did stop but several similar misbehaviours from both children were ignored because, my friend said, she didn't want her children to constantly be told No!

I haven't seen this family for ages, last thing I heard the boy was given an air rifle for his 12th birthday! My friend was a lovely person but her husband was arrogant beyond words, I dread to think how these kids have turned out, they will be in their early twenties now.

Lizx

Andysmum .................

I live close to Vancouver, and many of our side streets have parking on both sides so there is no room for 2 cars to pass. We actually make note of whether other drivers acknowledge when OH pulls over to let another driver.

We reckon that about 50% of them do not acknowledge, and I really hate to say this, but those drivers tend to fall into 2 main groups, one of which is ethnic, the other is elderly white males :-|

Most people don't actually wave ............. it's more just a lifting of the hand from the wheel, with the palm out. Or some drivers will flash their lights in acknowledgement.

The same ethnic group is also the worst at giving up seats on buses, holding doors, blocking entry to a side street when halting on a main road, and usually tends to have badly behaved screaming children. It is apparently not part of their culture to discipline children ......... the child will learn correct behaviour on its own as it grows older :-(

I guess when you only have 1 or 2 children, the tendency is to give them everything,

OH and I are very naughty ............... we refer to those children as the Prince or Princess of ........ :-D


Our common term for badly behaved children has always been OPK* ............... dating back to when we used to get kids sitting behind us on a plane and kicking the back of our seats. I even had one about 3 years ago on the train going across Canada .............. he found great delight in lifting and lowering the foot rest attached to the back of my seat. They go up and down with a great clunk every time, and the seat back shakes.

After a few minutes, I turned round and asked his mother to stop him as I had a bad back and it was hurting me.

It didn't have much effect, and no other seats to move to .......... it took her until the third time of asking before she made any real attempt to stop the little darling.




* Other Peoples Kids :-D

Having been a van driver for more years than I would care to admit and the daughter of a lorry driver to boot, I would always flash a lorry in if it overtook me,which many did in the old heaps I always drove.

When I first met OH he thought I knew a suspiciously large number of lorry drivers and I did not immediately disabuse him of this perception.

Fred always said that any idiot could drive a car but it took a special kind of skill to get anything that I owned to go along.

I always check behind me if I'm going through a swing door, and hold it open. Most people round here will smile thanks and I always say thankyou if someone holds it for me.

Also in this part of Scotland there are a lot of single-track roads with passing places. I was driving along one of these with my Canadian niece and pulling over for oncoming drivers at frequent intervals. My niece asked if I knew all these drivers. I said No and asked why she thought I did. "Because you are waving to them all and they are waving back" was the reply. When I explained that we were just being polite and acknowleging the other driver's consideration in pulling over, she was astonished.

Perhaps I should add that she has excellent manners in all other respects - but apparantly in Vancouver, as in many British towns, drivers aren't so considerate.

I love the ticketing for bags story.

I hope that young woman who didn't get her booked seat stood over the man for her journey with her bump in his face. ;-)

Another great sample of manners and selfishness on public transport......


Eight-months-pregnant woman forced to stand on train for more than half an hour because businessman refused to get out of the seat she'd booked
http://dailym.ai/1UC5zhw

What would have been the point of that?

What a horrible woman, Sharron, I am afraid I would have had strong words to say to her and her sneaky husband.

I hope her holiday was a wash out too lol

Lizxx

If I get to the door first I will hold it open,or if I am going out into rain and they are coming in regardless of gender.

Another thing I do if I am waiting to go through the till with a big trolley is to let somebody behind with only a couple of items go before me.This is even after I let a man with a couple of items and his wife shot in with a bigger trolley load than I had and behaving like she had got one over on me because of my weakness and that I should learn from that.

She was on holiday and I hope it bloody well rained all week!

That's a good one, Ann

I shall have to remember it :-D

Lol, Ann

Lizx

if they don't acknowledge, I say "Thank you for letting me hold the door for you" :-D

If I stand aside for someone or hold open a door, and am not acknowledged, I say in a loud voice 'thank you would be nice!' Sometimes I am still ignored but sometimes the culprit will apologise and say thanks.

I get very frustrated when children are ignored by parents, how will they learn when their questions are ignored. No manners taught by many parents these days, sadly because those parents have had no manners taught them.

Lizx

Bob

it isn't only on the bus, and it isn't only women ................... when i go through a door, I always glance around to see if anyone is close behind or coming towards me. If so, I hold the door for them.

The acknowledgement or thank you that I get from women and men is in the very low percentile


and I am a senior who walks with a cane, not a sprightly 20-something

Von, it has been my experience that some so- called "equal ladies"
have forgotten that a smile, a nod, a muttered thank you, goes a long way........

Bob

Well I certainly wouldn't descibe people who believe in the equality of women as "do gooders" :-0

I regularly travel on the underground and have often been offered a seat by both younger men and women.
The other day when I got on a bus it was particularly crowded.
I stood for a short time then a boy aged about 10 who was carrying his scooter on the bus got up and gave me his seat.
Chivalry is alive a well at least in my neck of the woods. :-D :-D :-D

I always made my daughter give up her seat for adults ................. any adult, not just senior or disabled. I would take her on my knee, or let her lean against me.

She was a fast learner, and would move of her own accord.

We were on the bus one day when she was about 7 or 8, she moved to sit on my knee to let someone sit down ................ and a passenger sitting behind me poked me in the back and said "why did your daughter do that?" :-0

That was around 1980/81

It also happened the other way ......... a couple of years later, an older gentleman poked 2 teenage boys in the back and told them to give up a seat to my daughter, then about 10 years old :-D

We have disabled/senior/pregnant mums/mums with strollers seats at he front of the bus ...... room for 2 wheelchairs OR 3 strollers OR about 8 or 9 people sitting.

Bus drivers will make others move if they see a problem.

Bob,
I'm the same as you....I'm 80 and I still feel like getting up if someone in more need needs a seat.I rarely travel by bus and it is an eye opener.

I live in an area of mainly retired people and on the whole we have the "old" respectful standards and love it when a gent holds the door,walks on the outside,etc.

Afraid those days will soon be long gone as the equality thing is with us,,,also the do gooders have gone too far with rules and regs regarding discipline.

the trouble is that do gooding ladies (bless'em) have campaigned for the equality thing.

now, I don't often use a bus but even at 77, if the need arose, I WOULD offer a seat to someone that appeared to need it more than I.

I DO also open/ hold doors for people following me.........

Bob

I wonder if a tall thin lady would have had more luck with those bags.