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Theresa (Cork, Ireland) 157164
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19 Mar 2016 23:04 |
Cutting disability is a low blow.
Assessing it is another issue tho. Gp's arent in the best position as often they are unable to be objective in individual cases.. As for the issue of midwives, many have been nurses for years before undertaking their training and part of midwifery training enables midwives to be more autonomous so as to make diagnosis and decisions. Even those who have done midwifery without nursing know plenty about pathology.
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BrianW
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19 Mar 2016 21:37 |
I have just spent hours filling in a fitness for work 20 page assessment form on someone else's behalf. The subject has a mental age of around three years and cannot understand or carry out even simple instructions consistently or hold a conversation of any sort nor read and write. There is no way that anyone would contemplate sending a three year old to work but there is no provision in the system for a medical or other professional to certify that someone is totally incapable, the form must be filled in in full by or on behalf of the subject and the subject may be called in for an interview (which they would be incapable of attending without being led there almost by the hand). The system is as idiotic as some of those subjected to it. I shall be pointing this out to our MP (but he is equally as useless, he just passes any issue to the relevent Civil Service department who trot out their lame excuses).
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JoyBoroAngel
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19 Mar 2016 16:00 |
I don't care if a bottle of Vodka goes up to £22 after the Budget
I will still gonna Party like its £19.99 :-D :-D :-D
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JoyBoroAngel
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18 Mar 2016 21:21 |
Iain Duncan Smith resigns as Work and Pensions Secretary over pressure to cut benefits Express & Star 21:14
Iain Duncan Smith Resigns Over Disability Cuts Sky News 21:11
Iain Duncan Smith resigns as Work and Pensions Secretary London Evening Standard 21:11
Iain Duncan Smith resigning as Work and Pensions Secretary 'due to Treasury pressure to make… Mirror.co.uk 21:11
Iain Duncan Smith resigns over benefits plans The Scottish Herald 21:10
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Breaking: Iain Duncan Smith Quits Over Disability Benefit Cuts Row Daily Star 21:10
Iain Duncan Smith's resignation letter in full ITV 21:09
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Duncan Smith quits over benefits plans BBC 21:04
Iain Duncan Smith resigns from Cabinet over disability cuts New Statesman 21:02
Work And Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith Quits Cabinet In Protest At Shambles Over… Daily Mail 21:02
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maggiewinchester
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18 Mar 2016 21:15 |
...not much of a Budget then, was it? Doesn't this man know his job? Two changes within 2 days!!!
If I was due to give a report to an employer, gave to them on a Monday and changed half of it the next day, my boss wouldn't be very happy!!
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JoyBoroAngel
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18 Mar 2016 20:21 |
Planned changes to disability benefits will be "kicked into the long grass", according to a government source.
Chancellor George Osborne faced criticism over the cuts outlined in the Budget, which were likely to affect some 640,000 people.
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FINGERS CROSSED :-D :-D
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JoyBoroAngel
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18 Mar 2016 13:59 |
Well said Chris :-D :-D :-D
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ChrisofWessex
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18 Mar 2016 13:50 |
Well, I am on 24hr oxygen since 2011 and I am sure that I am not the only one on these boards.
It is the disability benefits which bother me - it is bad enough for those trying to convince ATOS they are unfit to work. I have read a decision given by the Appeal Judge (solicitor) in conjunction with an ATOS dr - the report is incorrect - the judge literally moved the position of the plaintiff's home to local shops, ignoring it was up a very steep hill, moved his drs.address, his dentists address not to mention that of his bank and to add to it changed his bank for him (he has been there for 40 yrs) and so it went on littered with errors - said he was fit for work. The judge at the hearing told him his cane was too short for his height - he proved to them it was a collapsible one He has spinal arthritis which is worsening.
Spend some money on finding those who have being working the system for years and getting away with it No child benefit after third/fourth child, no child benefit paid for children non-resident in UK.
I agree less sugar should be in drinks/foods/cough bottles etc. but not convinced re sugar tax , just another means of taxation?
I had hoped that this present government with a majority would give Mr. Cameron some steel in his backbone but I fear sadly not.
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JoyLouise
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18 Mar 2016 13:25 |
I agree, Guinevere. There are young shirkers who don't want to get up and travel to work and expect everyone else to pick up the bill for their shirking.
I can appreciate how difficult it is to live in woop-woop where the buses operate hourly, the fares are costly and the young still want to live with their parents but moving and sharing with friends can be a viable option. After all, when conscription was in force they would have no option but to move. I am not one who believes that conscription ought to be re-introduced but I do think some people should 'man up' and get on with it.
It could mean a world of difference to the taxpayer and to those who were genuinely sick.
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JoyBoroAngel
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18 Mar 2016 13:19 |
My cousin Kenny Doesn't get DLA and he has no legs
Because he can just about walk using his sticks on his false legs
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Guinevere
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18 Mar 2016 13:13 |
It isn't just the elderly who get sickness related benefits. Some people claiming DLA etc have never worked a day in their lives so have contributed nothing through tax and NI. Some of them deserve every penny, others just don't.
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JoyLouise
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18 Mar 2016 12:56 |
Unfortunately, the really sick and disabled are paying the price for those who have discovered that one can get more money through that source than by being on the dole.
For many years, quite a few people, having been made redundant because of closure of industries, have gone down that route. I was told this about 15 years ago by someone who told me that a fair few of his old workmates had decided to 'go sick' rather than claim unemployment benefit. Some of the tricks they go through to claim sickness benefit are diabolical and I'd be surprised if none of us knew someone who had tried to defraud the government (ultimately the taxpayers).
It is a sad fact of life that quite often when one has worked in one particular job for 20 or 30 years, re-training for something different is a stumbling block for many. It is akin to a professional footballer saying his working life is short when, in fact, it's the same as everyone else's - he has to find different employment that's all.
I feel heartily sorry for the genuine sick and disabled who may be temporarily penalised because of the cheats.
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JoyBoroAngel
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18 Mar 2016 12:41 |
Anybody threatening a GP would be struck off the Doctors list
But to be honest why should it be means tested when its not a exactly a Benefit when You have paid Tax's and national insurance all your life to cover yourselves
Its not their fault they become ill
and skivers in my book are the lowest of the low :-D :-D
David Cameron got DLA ect for his son Ivan
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Guinevere
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18 Mar 2016 12:18 |
Money needs to be targeted where it is needed and not given to everyone who goes through the "gateway" without looking at their actual needs. No one should be able to build up thousands of pounds of savings just from benefits while others are struggling day to day. If they can save that much, then they don't need it and it should go to the people who do need it.
GPs have been threatened by "skivers" unless they sign that they are unfit, which is why their word is no longer accepted on its own.
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JoyBoroAngel
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18 Mar 2016 11:05 |
Your right Maggie But ATOS and Maximus Don't have enough Advisers in the right fields to cope or asses fairly
Take the Midwife how can she asses anybody except if they are having a baby Sadly It just doesn't work :-(
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maggiewinchester
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18 Mar 2016 10:59 |
They certainly could, Joy. Unfortunately both ATOS and Maximus override the doctor's report. Hence my view that the whole thing is just vindictive.
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JoyBoroAngel
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18 Mar 2016 10:52 |
Peoples GPs know them best They know their illnesses and could assess them at a lot less cost than any other firm/ company ect :-(
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maggiewinchester
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18 Mar 2016 10:49 |
Actually, we can add another £22 million pounds onto the cost of assessing the disabled for work - the amount the Government has put aside for 2016 - 2018 appeals against the assessments :-|
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/the-government-has-put-aside-ps22m-to-fight-benefits-claim-t#.nhGYb7o70
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JoyBoroAngel
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18 Mar 2016 10:48 |
The person I know on Oxygen Was sent for a work related meeting at the job plus centre And were told he could drive a taxi his wife pointed out where would he get insurance to carry fare paying passengers After having lung cancer a massive heart attack and COPD in the lung he has left and his larger Lung completely removed She then told the adviser to put him down as an astronaut and as he had his own Oxygen supply they would only have to buy him the suit They where then told the wife was been aggressive (rightly so she was ) and the adviser said her mother was on Oxygen and the wife said and what "£$%^ job did you give her to do The adviser replied she was to ill to work and the wife said YES and so is he The wife then finished the interview by saying Why don't you pop him down for a dirty porn phone line £29 per hour and if they want more heavy breathing I can stand on the poor buggars Oxygen lines
At which the Husband and wife walked out Telling them where to go and what to do with their meeting Funny they never got called back in for a second meeting
Where has the common sense gone its shocking how some sick and disabled are treated :-( :-( :-(
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18 Mar 2016 10:45 |
Initial grant then means testing?
TBH the whole benefit system needs a shake up. A friends daughter, admittedly some time ago, asked and was given an allowance to enable her to live independently. It was a 'gateway' allowance to other benefits. The advisor was extremely surprised that she didn't want or need to claim.
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