General Chat

I think he should come here if he wishes
But I also think we should keep out noses out of USA politics
and spend our time sorting our own messes out :-D :-D

The petition surely is referring only to the State Visit that he was invited to last Thursday by your PM.

What I've seen is that he should be allowed into the UK as President of the UK or a private citizen to conduct government and / or private business.

The petition wants the invitation to the State Visit to be withdrawn because of the embarrassment it will cause the Queen.

He has no idea of protocol, diplomacy, or legal matters ............... witness the events this weekend around the banning of people entering the US, which has been declared unconstitutional even by the new Vice-President of the US, and where all advice from his security people, Homeland Security etc was ignored, and no legal advice was sought

.............. and he will undoubtedly use photographs of him with the Queen to promote his businesses, and possibly / probably to support his Executive Orders.

Not allowed to touch the Queen?? WTH ............ that wouldn't bother him, he always touches women ............. didn't you see him grasping onto May's hand???

He has also said that he will refuse to meet Prince Charles during the State Visit because he "does not want to be lectured about climate change."

In case you haven't heard ........... Trump doesn't believe that climate change has occurred, is occurring, or is caused by human activities.


The demonstrations that will undoubtedly occur during any public events of a full State Visit would undoubtedly embarrass the Queen and Prince Philip ............. is it worth it????

I think it is worth it in that the UK needs as much trade as they can get from the US.

The petition isn't to stop him coming - or we'd be as bad as he is - it's to allow him to come - but not for a state visit.
Imagine how he'd twist that :-0

Also, despite Johnson talking to his American counterpart, some UK citizens are still unable to travel back to/away from America.

Even if nothing is done about the petition, those who sign it are at least letting Government know how they feel.

Our Government says if 100,000 people signed a petition, they would debate it in Parliament - but not this time, nor for a couple of previous ones - so the voice of the people will not be heard if it's inconvenient. The petition against Trump has now reached over 1,500,000.

I really don't care who sees what petitions I sign. I'm allowed to have my opinion. When they start rounding up people for legal things they look up, or sign, on the internet, we'll know to be very worried.

I think the trouble is robot voting is almost certainly being done again.

I'm not sure robot voting can happen on this one - you have to go into your e-mail and confirm you have voted.

Here's the petition - you don't have to sign it, to see where people have signed. Click on the 'show as a map' - you can then make it bigger. Hover over it with your mouse and it tells you how what percentage of people have signed in each electoral area.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928/

I'm pretty sure it's happened in the past wasn't the call for a second EU vote a victim of this ?

Can't see any evidence of it, nor any reporting of it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36640459

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/26/concern-as-online-call-for-second-brexit-vote-gains-more-than-39/

I myself feel no State visit but he could have talks with Pm .he is not King of America just a politician & should not be afforded the time with our Royal Family .Our Pm met him in the White House so let him stay at Chequers with the her for a short stay (Sorted )

Caroline, if it happened once, one hopes they've put a stop to it!

Barbra,
I agree with you.
May invited him over - she can put him up!! :-D

Maybe Silly Lilliy what's her name the famous person who always complains can put him up !!

Maggie...you'd hope they would wouldn't you.....want to bet some money on them having done that though ??? :)

The only thing needed for evil to prosper is that good men do nothing.

True Rollo.........but really is Trump the most evil of them all....close granted....

We forget one thing, perhaps?

Surely Theresa May would not have proffered a state visit without the Queen's knowledge which indicates that the Queen is either happy to oblige or asked T May to do so on her behalf?

My bet is that it was done so at the Queen's suggestion.

We are all blessed not to be cursed with the burden of foreknowledge.

It would not be the May style to ask or care for Hm opinion. The weekly meetings have not gone well.

Trump is an evil man bringing ratbags such as Steve Bannon to power. There are going to be major ructions in the USA. Read up on the rise to power of Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s.

May is either naive and stupid hitching her wagon to Trump or herself a closet follower of alt.right. the doors are open.

Sorry Rollo, I disagree, however the meetings have gone. Although you write that it is not May's style to ask or care for HM's opinion, my blood tells me that May would not have done that off her own bat.

I, myself, do not care for Trump who appears to care not a jot for opinions of his advisers or those around him. He has the makings of a despot and, since you bring up Hitler's rise to power over several years (which, by the way, I had to read a lot about many years ago), Trump needs to be aware of what was said after the Nazi fall when it was all over - why wasn't something done during Hitler's rise to power ?