General Chat

Should there be Cameras in all Care homes
there's been a number of Abuse cases of late
I know this isn't something new

But how do you feel We should deal with the Problem :-( :-(

It's difficult because those living there have a right to privacy. Consent would have to be sought from each resident for cameras in their rooms.

In corridors I think no one would mind. But their bedrooms and bathrooms? Some might not be happy.

Do people get ab used in the corridors ???

We cameras throughout our locals nursery
Nobody has ever objected :-(

The one problem would be you'd be forcing the abuse into areas where you'd never put cameras like bathrooms. I think families should be able to install cameras secretly if there's reason, therefore catching by surprise. Let's be honest hidden cameras happen enough that care givers should know there's always a chance they'd be there. Which makes you wonder why they still abuse them.
For the record I know being a carer must be difficult.

Of late, it would seem that Care Homes have generally come in for a barrage of criticisms on various matters. Some are justifiable no doubt if we are to believe the awfulness of press & TV reports but it also tarnishes the superbly run establishments in the public’s minds.

If families claim they could make a better fist of looking after their frail & elderly parents, for example, then perhaps they should receive the financial backing the local authorities currently pay to Care Homes.

I must also say
I have heard of some wonderful care homes :-D

If my mum was in one I would have one installled so my answer is yes we must keep our elderly people safe and yes I do know there are very good care home like you get very caters but you only need only need to get one bad apple

My father would have been horrified if they had wanted to install one in his room or his bathroom. But he had all his mental capacity, so could tell us if something was going on.

I think if a resident has dementia then there may be a reason but the family would have to consent on the resident's behalf. Or, as has been said, would have to install one themselves covertly if they suspected something was going on.

I have nothing but praise for the care he received.

We as a family know we are very lucky as to where my Nan
is in the Care Home she has been in for over 6 years.

From the staff, management, to fun days, one on one caring buddy's
for those who do not have any family.

We have monthly meetings for family and management every month
and the topic of installing camera's came up a few months ago.

Every one filled in forms as to whether their loved ones and families
would like one in their rooms. Some I have to say have declined the
offer and chose not to have them in the rooms. We decided to have the
camera for quite a few reasons. Nan often has falls due to her short term memory loss and forgets she cannot use her legs, sometimes ambulance and doctor services question as to exactly what time she fell, how she fell. We also
have other reasons too, which are private, but to have a little more extra
peace of mind is always a positive in our personal opinion on my Nans care.

I can understand others not wanting them and it is their opinion...

Infact they are being installed next week.

The toilets and wet rooms do not have cameras as you can well
understand.

I think they could possibly be of use to staff too, especially with residents who suffer memory loss. e.g. If the resident has bruises and insists they didn't get them accidentally so the family immediately blame the staff, the camera may show how the bruises were obtained. But it is not a subject for a blanket decision, it has to be down to the resident if they are able to make decisions, or the family if they think it necessary. (and mostly people are going to have a suspicion that a camera would be a benefit. My worry would be, if the camera was not covert, then the staff would know how to abuse (if they did), out of sight of the camera and enjoy 'getting away with it'.

Was only thinking this morning that I have a truly vile narcissistic cousin who was the epitome of evil to one of her children. He died of cancer recently and I am not surprised with the stress he grew up under, tortured to death in my opinion.

Anyway, how marvellous if she were to be in a home where there is surreptitious bullying and she lived her last days in the same sort of fear and terror as Ian lived his early years.

Today's News: "Teachers wearing body cameras to film unruly pupils".

Most care homes, despite the fact they could do with more funding, provide excellent care.

There will always be the 1 bad egg in the basket but unfortunately it tends to taint everything else around it, largely fueled by the media who are keen to paint a picture far worse than it really is.

However I think there is a place for cameras, as Mersey has said already, but in a managed and considerate way. All communal ares, perhaps and bedrooms, with the agreement of the family.

I also think the same applies to schools. My ten year old grandson has witnessed bullying but the school regularly claims unable to act because it is one word against another and the little sh...ts who are behind it get away with murder. Again cameras in the communal areas, corridors, cloakrooms etc would be a big help.

Perhaps I am being cynical but would be concerned that the films would be destroyed wiped or "lost" if some abuse was seen on camera but the home wanted to cover it up .

You read of homes that have been closed down as badly run so my concern would be that they wouldn't want any of the goings on ,of whatever practice ,being recorded on camera so the films would conveniently be wiped .

I do think abuse needs to be exposed though .no one especially the old and frail or dementia person should be subject to abuse in any form

My hubby when he was still going on fairly well , cried one time as we sat having an after dinner chat and said promise me you won't put me in a home.

I told him as long as I could look after him then I promised I would do so

I fought to get him home from the hospital even though we had to have a hospital bed in the lounge and carers in 4 times a day
At one time the care manager assigned to him told me she could override his and my decision to get him home .She said as he hadn't done a power of attorney for his health then she could make the decision for him

He was completely imobolised and couldn't sit up unaided or feed himself etc . I would hate to think he could have been roughly treated .

Shirley your care of your Husband was second to none
He was so lucky to have such a caring partner xx <3