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Hi, looking for any info on the above born in Radford, Nottingham- admitted to Gordon Boys Home in 1910 then sent to reformatory for 4 years (Redhill). Also mentioned address is Training Home for Boys Adel, near Leeds?

Any help appreciated.

Regards, Jackie

Thomas Baden P Sumner
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Nottingham
Volume: 7b
Page: 407

Marriage
Thomas B P Sumner
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Spouse: Priscilla Broddel
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 750

Death
Thomas B P Sumner
Birth Date: abt 1900
Date of Registration: Jun 1928
Age at Death: 28
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 447

Burial
Thomas Baden Powell Sumner
Death Date: abt 1928
Burial or Cremation Date: 21 Jun 1928
Burial or Cremation Place: Nottinghamshire, England
Register Type: Burial

Free birth search on GRO gives his mother's maiden name

SUMNER, THOMAS BADEN POWELL mmn PERKINS
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 407

1901 census
Thomas Sumner
Age: 10/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Samuel Sumner
Mother: Elizabeth Sumner
Birth Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham
Search Photos: Search for 'Nottingham' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: New Radford
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Samuel Sumner 39
Elizabeth Sumner 28
Charles Sumner 3
Thomas Sumner 10/12
Lydia Perkins 15 - Samuel's niece.
....

1911 census
Thomas Sumner
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Rodford, Nottins
Civil Parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: Crammer Street Nottingham
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Piece: 20561

Nottingham Gordon Home for Delinquent boys.EDIT - Destitute not Delinquent.

You can read about it here. There is a link at the bottom of the page to the Nottingham Archives who hold the Admin & Discharge registers.
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/NottinghamGordon/

1911 census

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Sumner
Relationship -
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Occupation School
Age 10
Birth year 1901
Birth place Nottm Rodford
Address Gordon House Cranmer St Nottingham
Parish Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Nottingham
Registration district number 430
Enumeration district 21
District number -
Sub district Nottingham North East
Sub district number 3
Census reference RG14PN20561 RG78PN1230 RD430 SD3 ED21 SN181
Piece number 20561
Folio -

Nottingham Gordon homes for destitute boys

The Reformatory could be the Leeds East Moor Reformatory
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/LeedsEastMoor/

Again, at the bottom of the page are links to archived records

The Reformatory in Redhill, Surrey could be the Farm School run by the Philanthropic Society
http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/Philanthropic/

You can download a list of the boy's names (1.2Mb) from here
https://tinyurl.com/zwr45yx (Surrey County Council's History Centre)

You could contact them to ask if they have any further records about his time there. Unless you can visit in person, they would charge a fee.

Thread duplicated. More info on other thread.

Andy

Looks like an accidental duplication - answers on both !!

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1364703?jump=1364703

Just about to the say the same, Andrew. At least the answers on the other one focuses on family where as this is about the various 'Schools.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1364703