General Chat

By sheer human nature you will never have everyone living in peace nor well fed nor educated nor clothed...sad but true.
In the past yes it has been Western countries that have helped themselves to the goodies, not always caring what they left behind.
Today it's more likely warlords taking what they want with no regard to what they leave in the shadow.
The UK could spend ten times what they spend now, fund raisers by the public when a disaster occurs could raise record breaking amounts but it will change little...war lords will still grow richer, people will still have more children than they can raise albeit with good intentions, natural disasters will still happen.

And so it goes on!!!!

Unfortunately ISIS and other extreme Muslim organizations are not helping the cause of anybody.

Not long after 9/11 there was a disaster in Pakistan, I can't remember what it was, a flood or an earthquake I think. Anyway they had very little help form the outside world because people who might have given regardless of crede were remembering the mindless atrocity committed in the name of their national religion.

Desperately sad and tragic, it all started with such high hopes, but soon disintegrated into war with all its accompanying horrors. No amount of aid will significantly help these poor people who are constantly caught up in these vicious cycles of violence. God knows what the answer is.

The effects of civil war have contributed to more than one million people facing starvation in South Sudan.

South Sudan has officially declared the first famine in the world for six years, with more than one million people on the brink of starvation because of prolonged civil war, poor governance and economic crisis.

The announcement that more than 100,000 people in two counties of Unity state are experiencing famine and an additional one million South Sudanese faced starvation came from the government and three UN agencies.

“Our worst fears have been realized,” said Serge Tissot, head of the food and agriculture organisation in South Sudan, a country that just six years ago was fêted as the world’s newest in a independence process backed by global powers. {The Times 21.02.17}.

One shouldn't pass by on the other side but one also shouldn't give for the sake of it.

Having not checked lately....what % of aid goes to India for instance and agreed space travel is excellent..how is the UK space programme ?.....how many schools have been built around the world on UK funds and never used ?....sometimes you can pour endless amounts into a pot and that pot will never fulfil it's function as there are too many bleeder holes from it funding a rich leader for instance....none of which is anything to do with Brexit. :-)

I am just going by stuff as reported in Vilnius and by the UK F.O. Nothing secret. as Magpie says charity begins at home or at least nearby. doubt if nearby would stretch to the Ukraine tho'

That the world is and always has been full of terror misery and dishonesty does not mean it is OK to pass on the other side of the road.

Most of Brit foreign aid does an excellent but unreported job. Paul Dacre and such loathsome people will never agree and to tell the truth I dont care what they and their acolytes say, do or think.

But it must be right it's anti Brexit....and was spoken by the wise one. :-D

You know that these deals are being financed by foreign aid?!! I don't think you do, I think you just like to sound all knowing and terribly important, safe in the knowledge that no one on here will challenge your flimsy information!

Rollo, that is actually complete rubbish, and you know it. War, starvation, destitution, all these dire situations were alive and well in Africa long long before brexit. It's an insovable problem while countries persist in fighting each other and their economies are constantly wrecked by warfare. Help for problems caused by natural disasters are almost always immediately wrecked, leaving the population once again starving and displaced. These constant conflicts are not the sole fault of his country, though I'm sure you'd like to convince us otherwise

So the UK is spending some money to look after home rather than for instance funding a girl band..and Germany and France the two countries who will have to pick up the financial slack are sulking what a surprise....

I havent woven anything the Brits are running attempts at bilateral sweetheart deals in e Europe in return for support in the upcoming negs. The deals would be financed by the foreign aid budget. Paris and Berlin are displeased and have warned London that such actions could result in no negs at all apart from the brexit bill itself.

How can you weave anti Brexit views into everything !!
Let me guess today storm is down to Brexit..

A very apposite point Joylouise.
However the west has lost interest in such matters as imposing the rule of law so that normal life can go on. The result is that our enemies take advantage while we are flooded with refugees fleeing war. Torture and Starvation.
UK gov is so disinterested that it seeks to use foreign aid for Brexit bribery.

Whatever Rollo....

Another dimension to the situation is that as militia move around the country, it does not buy food but simply takes what it wants, leaving farmers with little or no food to feed families.

Even when a bank lends money to women and not men for farming, believing that women will feed their families, it is of limited use if their produce is taken by the militia.

One can see why some young boys who may have stayed and farmed, join the militia - empty stomachs. That is another reason why there appear to be fewer males to be seen tilling the land.

The solution?

I said no such thing.

It was following on from your comment about welfare not being good for some races....

What was yr joke I missed it?