General Chat

Linda - they're probably at our local Mall! We've seen them patrolling around inside for 2 successive weeks.
TBH, it has been mentioned as a posible target in previous court cases.

Our immediate reaction was of concern - do they have 'credible intelligence?' and should we find somewhere else to have our coffee 'n' a bun. That was immediately followed with the thought that if we took our custom elsewhere, the threat of terrorism has 'won'.

I don't think he was a 'sleeper' - just a selfish tw*t.
It was murder - it shouldn't be 'glamourised' by calling it an act of terrorism

Another attack 9.50pm in France :-( :-(

Some papers are saying terrorist attack some saying Gangster fight :-( :-(

Watching the West Country news last night they were saying that extra police on all major train stations in the south west to show travelers that they are safe. I came down hillingdon from Northamptonshire today I just saw two policemen at st Pancras station where were they all?

The spooks call agents and operators who have dropped off the radar "sleepers". They are a nightmare and have caused endless trouble. If Isil really can harvest such dragon's teeth then we are up the Kybher.

Probably, hopefully not but the possibility may be why security services are ripping so hard into Masood's network. Sleepers were a key part of the Ira mayhem in mainland UK.

He was 52. A lot older than the usual lone wolf nutter.

I have seen 3 different photos and names of the suspect
None of them looked like the man
I seen been taken away in an Ambulance in pics

The three photos look like a much older people

He was in Saudia Arabia and Jail in the UK when he changed his views

If the BBC could not find him as a teacher in English state schools perhaps he only did an ESOL course then followed that up with teaching English as a second language to foreigners?

If so, I'd be trawling through the people he taught.

Or his students may have radicalised him.

So, not confirming it happened, he MAY have had the opportunity to "brainwash" people himself.....yes I know guess work it's not scaremongering it's looking at all of the possible scenarios. To not do so would be acting like an ostrich.

From the BBC-

He described his profession as a "teacher" - although the BBC has been able to confirm that he never worked as a qualified teacher in English state schools.

We now believe he may have trained to teach English to foreigners in private colleges and classes - possibly in Luton where he lived at two separate addresses between 2010 and 2011.

So wonder if he only taught English lessons when he was employed as an educator?

His bio is on the front page of the Sun

four daughters from first marriage

married twice - first to someone with a British sounding name
second to someone with a middle eastern sounding name

Scotland Yard says his birth name was Adrian Russell Ajao, born in Dartford, Kent in 1964

Added - no birth reg in that surname although there ones in Elms & Mason
Elsewhere it says that he had a stepfather - perhaps that's where the Ajao surname came from?

Stabs Vests is a torso protector.


They dont protect the neck is an area of a stab can be fatal.

So, it transpires the 'terrorist' was named (probably Christened) Adrian Elms./possibly other surname he used a lot of aliases, but was born in the UK, probably in Kent, and wasn't some youth who was 'radicalised' - he was in his 50's.
If he WAS radicalised in his 50's - just shows what a weak being he was,

I'm almost sure his 'conversion' to terrorism - as it sure as hell isn't Islam - didn't lead to his unlawful behaviour, as he was well known to police under his 'given' name.
He was just some 'nobody' - brought up, I'm sure with 'British Values' - wanting to be a 'somebody'.
Sadly the only way he could imagine doing it was at the cost of other people's lives.

Also a good example of why reporters etc shouldn't be presumptive.

He was even less of a Muslim than the tw*ts who joined the IRA were Catholic.

come to harm? well if they are terrorists, who cares!!