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Londonbelle .............


that looks good ......

......... there does not seem to be any other marriage for an Edw* Ashm* to a Cath* anywhere in England between 1800 and 1827 .......... at least, not on the internet!

I'm wondering whether Catharine's surname was Selwyn. There is at Baptism on 31 Aug 1788 in Painswick

Catharine dau of William & Sarah Selwyn

Image available.

Then there is this Marriage

Name: Catharine Selvin
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 10 Mar 1812
Marriage Place: St Nicholas, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Spouse: Edward Ashmill

I haven't been able to find an image for the marriage only a transcript

Thank you londonbelle

It is possible then that the surname had changed and that's why I can't find a marriage I will dig a little deeper

Death Announcement in The Sheffield Daily Telegraph, Monday, 02 Oct 1865:

On the 30th ult., Catherine, widow of the late Mr Edward Ashmore, South Street, Park, 75 years.

In case you haven't got it this is Catherine in the 1861 Census

Name: Catherine Ashmore
Age: 70
Estimated birth year: 1791
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Painswick, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Dyers Hill
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Sheffield Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Piece: 3493
Folio: 31
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Ashmore 70
Edwin Ashmore 40 Son b Birmingham
William Ashmore 17
Edwin Ashmore 10
Ellen Ashmore 7
Albert Ashmore 4

This I believe is Edwin's Baptism....there is an image for it

Name: Edwin Ashmall
Age: 1
Birth Date: 9 Dec 1820
Baptism Date: 9 Sep 1822
Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Philip
Search Photos: Search for 'Birmingham, St Philip' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: Edward Ashmall occ Maltser
Mother: Catherine Ashmall
Abode: Winson Green

This, I think, is the Baptism for William who appears on both the 1841 & 1851 Censuses

Name: William Ashmall
Age: 0
Birth Date: 16 Jun 1823
Baptism Date: 7 Jul 1823
Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Philip
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Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: Edward Ashmall occ Maltser
Mother: Catherine Ashmall
Abode: Winson Green

You will note that the surname in both instances was Ashmall; perhaps the surname was Ashmall and became Ashmore .......Just a thought!

Well I searched Edward Ashmore on ancestry which I don't subscribe to and it came up with a match on a tree and his spouse was Catherine Dickenson and the details of the 1841 census matched, so I did a birth search for Catherine Dickenson and found one born 1790 in painswick Gloucestershire which is the details on the census of 1841 when they lived in shefgield

How did you manage to figure that out??

I came across this possible Baptism........but can't find a marriage to Edward Ashmore.

??

County Gloucestershire
Place (link for place information) Painswick
Church name St Mary
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 31 Jan 1790
Person forename Catherine
Person sex F
Father forename Joseph
Father surname DICKINSON
Mother forename Betty
Mother surname DICKINSON
Witness
Witness
Register note

I have found her maiden name I think it is Dickenson, but still can't find a marriage....maybe they weren't married

:-D

Found on Ancestry. There appears to be 2 baby Catherine's (Added)....How sad.

Haven't come across a marriage for Edward though.

Hi Pricklyholly

Yes it is Edward.....my error, thank you for the info of Baby Catharine, where did you find that?

Catharine Ashmore in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1964
Name: Catharine Ashmore
Age: 1
Birth Date: abt 1817
Burial Date: 25 Jan 1818
Age: 1 Year
Abode: Northwood Street
Burial Place: Birmingham, St Mary, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Mary
Father: Edward Ashmore
Mother: Catharine Ashmore
Ceremony performed by....B Howell




Catharine Ashmore in the Birmingham, England, Church of England Burials, 1813-1964
Name: Catharine Ashmore
Age: 1
Birth Date: abt 1819
Burial Date: 20 Feb 1820
Age: 13 Months
Abode: Winson Green
Burial Place: Birmingham, St Mary, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Mary
Father: Edward Ashmore
Mother: Catharine Ashmore
Ceremony performed by....B Howell

Oliver Ashmore in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Oliver Ashmore
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 23 Nov 1828
Baptism Place: Cathedral Saint Peter,Sheffield,York,England
Father: Edward Ashmore
Mother: Catherine


Eve Ashmore in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Eve Ashmore
Registration Year: 1841
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 22
Page: 340

Hi Janey

Can you please confirm that it's Joseph Ashmore.......or could it possibly be Edward Ashmore??

??

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
South Street, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Edward Ashmore Male 50 1791 - Glass Grinder
Catherine Ashmore Female 50 1791 -
William Ashmore Male 15 1826 - Glass Grinder
Oliver Ashmore Male 12 1829 Glass Grinder Yorkshire, England
Eve Ashmore Female 8 1833 Yorkshire, England


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Court, South Street Park, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Edward Ashmore Head Married Male 60 1791 Optician Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Transcription
Catharine Ashmore Wife Married Female 60 1791 - Painswick, Gloucestershire, England
Transcription
Anne Ashmore Daughter In Law Married Female 28 1823 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Transcription
William Ashmore Son Married Male 27 1824 Optician Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

can anyone advise me on how to find a maiden name for someone, I am really struggling as I can't even find a marriage

Edward Ashmore born 1791 Birmingham Warwickshire
Catherine ?? born 1791 Painswick Gloucestershire

Lived in Sheffield 1841 census

Thank you in advance