General Chat

Maybe we should have paid more mature heed to Donald Rumsfeld some years back.

All the way back past Ford Prefect, Slartibartfast and the wrinkley bits and the Summer of '42 to Stonehenge and the night sky of ten thousand years ago people have been asking themselves just what it was all for and how they might fit in.

Vast amounts of money skill know how and engineering effort goes into trying to answer the question. As it turns out that the major powers find the question so interesting it has taken precedence over war. Maybe curiosity instead of killing the cat is saving it.

All we know for sure is that we don't know very much and what we do know doesn't add up at all well. The spin offs from the search have brought us everything from mobile phones to quantum mechanics. Plus of course discovering that Einstein was wrong and god does play dice.

"Now the years are rolling by me
They are rocking easily
I am older than I once was
And younger than I’ll be
But that’s not unusual
No, it isn’t strange
After changes upon changes
We are more or less the same
After changes rearranges we are
More or less the same"

Paul Simon

It's interesting anyway Mayfield, even if it is only tapping into long forgotten memories, info that we don't know we know lol.

I think those regression sessions are probably bunkum, having said that I rather fancy doing one just to see what my subconscious comes up with! :-D

I used to wonder what we were here for when I was very young, however, I reached about 14 and decided it was a waste of time wondering about it and it's never troubled me since.

Too much discriminatory attitude towards women - more so reported in the media just lately, it seems.

A deeply worrying trend.

nudging up for someone :-)

Or ask a gardener :-) <3

Have to disagree with you on that one, Dermot.
Just ask a mother! :-D

You could argue that a 'bad' mother suffers social penalty, but the majority persevere through a mother's love, not the fear of social penalty.

None of us would undertake any hard or persistent work if we could avoid it without physical, economic or social penalty.

Summed up nicely by Flanders & Swann :-D

Heat is work and work's a curse
And all the heat in the universe
It's gonna cool down as it can't increase
Then there'll be no more work
And they'll be perfect peace
Really?
Yeah, that's entropy, man!
And all because of the second law of thermodynamics, which lays down

That you can't pass heat from the cooler to the hotter
Try it if you like but you far better notter
'Cause the cold in the cooler will get hotter as a ruler
'Cause the hotter body's heat will pass through the cooler
Oh, you can't pass heat from the cooler to the hotter
You can try it if you like but you far better notter
'Cause the cold in the cooler will get hotter as a ruler
That's the physical law

Lost what i was going to say Dermot lol.

Rollo, I will stick with the link and sing along. Entropy and the second law of thermodynamics looks to be something that will need a level of concentration that I don't have atm as I'm waiting for the phone to ring :-)

We are stardust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7RTp5l7YmY

or if you prefer a hard science approach try googling "entropy and the second law of thermodynamics" which anybody who has taken A level physics will have come across.

but it is the same thing in the end.

Religion fortifies many in the face of death.

A sort of palliative care, perhaps!

I agree! :-D :-D

Geology is just geology ( imho) the earthquakes, floods etc are natural phenomenon not linked in anyway to good or evil except perhaps in how we deal with how they affect people when they happen? I don't believe in diseases being some kind of punishment or a 'lesson' as such either.

Could this 'evil' power be the cause of Earthquakes, or is that down to Geology?


Is Geology a 'hidden force' that reacts to humankind?

I'm very sketchy on physics (on many things lol you can tell!) , but if everything including us is 'energy' and does not disappear but remains in some (altered) form, then maybe there is a pool of energy, either good or evil that is 'accessible', to be drawn upon?

I'm also not well up on the "collective unconscious" ,,, the longer I live the more I realise how little I know lol....and possibly how little time there is left in which to learn it ;-)

So perhaps, if we are here for a reason, or to learn, those who can avoid nastiness are heading for a 'good' place? Whatever that may be.

Maybe there are so many wars, because, in the past, there were so many 'good' people who didn't need to come back, and we've entered a period where the toerags are in the majority!

I'm not a religious person, but it's not easy talking about this, without referring to one :-S

"Moral and ethical behaviour doesn't rely on religion." No it absolutely doesn't Maggie, that's why I said "leaving aside any religious aspects" because I know as many non- religious people who have all the qualities , as I do religious people who have none of them ( ie they 'believe' for the reward rather than the journey if you see what I mean.)

Yet there are people who haven't been brought up to be nice to strangers/others but who nevertheless are...they have bucked the upbringing to be or do 'better' than the people they might have been like?