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Lois's parents marriage. Dudley RD spans Staffs and Worcs
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
Hayward Frederick Dudley 6c 55
Jukes John Dudley 6c 55 <<<<<<<<<
SHAW Hannah Dudley 6c 55 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Wilkes Eliza Dudley 6c 55
Wilks Eliza Dudley 6c 55
Marriage certificate will give ages at marriage, occupations and the names/occupations of Fathers to help Identify them earlier.
You should get certificates to prove each generation.
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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Linton Heath, Linton (Derby), Burton upon Trent, Derbyshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
John Jukes Head Married Male 26 1855 Woodside, Worcestershire, England Coal Miner
Hannah Jukes Wife Married Female 30 1851 Woodside, Worcestershire, England -
William Jukes Son Single Male 5 1876 Castle Gresley, Derbyshire, England Scholar
Beatrice Ann Jukes Daughter Single Female 0 1881 Linton, Derbyshire, England -
Ages of John and Hannah out from transcribed ages in 1891 posted earlier - see EDIT of that post
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Sorry - what does a closed record indicate?
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The 1939 register was a record of everyone in the country (apart from those in the Forces) taken on September 29th 1939 just after WW2 commenced. It enabled ID cards and ration books to be issued and to ID those who were of the age to be called up. Later it became the basis for the NHS system as everyone had unique numbers. It was updated to around 1991 after which computers were used.
Due to privacy rules anyone under the age of 100 and not proved to have died should not be shown on the register - they are the closed records.
It will show name changes i.e. when a women married.
Only names, DOB's, address and occupation show, along sometimes with the odd comment such as member of the AFS, Red Cross etc
Very useful as the 1931 census was destroyed in WW2 and there was no 1941 census.
As usual with any record, they are not necessarily 100% accurate e.g. DOB's
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greyghost posted .......
"As usual with any record, they are not necessarily 100% accurate e.g. DOB's"
True!!
Never believe ages or birth dates on any census etc etc
My grandfather lied about his date of birth for most of his life, including on censuses, jointing up in WW1, and on the 1939 Register. I think it started when he lied about his age on his marriage certificate (my grandmother also lied)
He even lied to his family ............... so his death registration is also wrong.
His son found a birth certificate hidden at the back of a drawer some weeks after grandfather's death, but did not go back to the Registrar to see about correcting the death registration
In view of the above ................ I always use birth year +/- 2 when searching records. extending the range to +/- 5 or even +/- 10 if I get no results the first time around.
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I am slowly working through and looking up your suggestions which look great. Lois's children the twins Frank and John born 1911, I can see Frank died 18 days old and John was 5 months old both in Burton Upon Trent in Staffordshire.
Then looking at Frank 1917 I am pretty sure he belongs to the this family because it states mother as Jukes but if not sure for certain who the 1911 boys mother definitely is as I don't think it stated Jukes or did you see Jukes stated for the twins?
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All the births I posted showed mmn as Jukes.
ie. from the GRO site I posted
Name: ...........................................Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HAYWOOD, VICTOR WILLIAM ........JUKES
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 436
and from freebmd
Surname..... First name(s)........ Mother .........District Vol Page
Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Haywood... Hadyn ...........Jukes ........Basford 7b 322
Where have you got the ages from that you say Frank and John died. The GRO reference only shows age 0
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Vicky .............
this is what greyghost posted on p.1 of this thread
ALL can be found on the GRO Index site
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
HAYWOOD, VICTOR WILLIAM JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 436
HAYWOOD, PHYLLIS JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 417
HAYWOOD, SAMUEL JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 411
HAYWOOD, FRANK JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 397
HAYWOOD, JOHN JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 397
HAYWOOD, LESLIE JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 733 Order
HAYWOOD, FRANK JUKES Order
GRO Reference: 1917 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 588
GRO Index, you have to register but it is free. Mother's maiden name shown for records from July 1 1837 to 1919 .......
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
Click on Order certificates online
Click on Search the GRO historical birth and .....
Scroll down to LogIn (this is where you register)
Click on Submit
Click on Search the Gro Index
Click on births (deaths)
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Hi All,
I have been away from this and am picking this up again it is a lot for me to take in and I am still working slowing through the evidence but can you please help me confirm:
Lois Jukes was
Born 1883
M1903 to John Haywood
D? I am unsure can you se if you make it Sheffield 1960 or am I going wrong?
Thank you,
Vicky.
:-(
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