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SylviaInCanada
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5 Apr 2018 00:08 |
oh, those English names that no longer exist!!
Lots of my maternal relations apparently lived at Lyon Dam, Oldham
Got my maternal gt grandfather's death certificate. Place of death: Lyon Dam. He was at least the 3rd generation that I'd found with that address.
I grew up in Oldham. Never heard of Lyon Dam. It isn't on any modern maps.
Turns out it was on the outskirts of Oldham, near the one-time village that we moved to when I was 11.
I still don't know where it might have been.
Doubt my mother did either!
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PricklyHolly
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4 Apr 2018 21:09 |
Yes i spotted that one too Chris....as you say, September though.
Delight Rows (How Lovely! :-D ) Was where Elizabeth aka Betsy..and children William, Henry and Celia Bell were living on the 1881 census. I am sure you know that already.
Registration District on the 1881 census....Lanchester
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Edit: The son William Alfred Hancock on the 1891 census......
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Delight Rows, Collierly, Lanchester, Durham, England
****Civil parish: Collierly****
**** Resident Place: Dalton Piercy, Collierly, Durham, England****
**** Sub registration district: Tanfield ****
William A Hancock Head Married Male 26 1865 Menheniot, Cornwall, England Coal Miner Ambrosine A Hancock Wife Married Female 22 1869 Dipton, Durham, England -
So checking back on the script, it actually reads.......
Interred At Collierley
From Google........."COLLIERLY, a township, in the parish and union of Lanchester"
So not the Colliery......... :-S :-D
Off in search of some medication >>>>>>>
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Chris Ho :)
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4 Apr 2018 20:44 |
(well if it said which Colliery, not seeing him newsapapers, only the Seaham one coming up, that was September though, after your William)
http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/d015.htm
(info above on Dipton Colliery) (1881, 1891 (son William) both Addresses, Delight Rows, there is Delight Colliery also!)
Chris :)
(tuts!, lol)
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PricklyHolly
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4 Apr 2018 20:00 |
I think i need to purchase a copy of the death cert for William.
Although i am thinking, is it best not knowing.
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Chris Ho :)
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4 Apr 2018 19:25 |
http://www.dmm.org.uk/names/names_ha.htm
(well I was looking in case yesterday!, above usually has something, but not seeing)
Chris :)
(but does state below)
(Please note: not all of the sufferers listed here are shown in the other tables - the disaster index only shows those accidents where 5 or more lives were lost.)
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PricklyHolly
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4 Apr 2018 18:58 |
I am thinking about it Chris.
Ooo, errr.....Looking again at the script on the gravestone, under William it reads.....
Interred in Colliery
I am guessing there was some sort of mining accident and his body wasn't recovered?
:-(
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Chris Ho :)
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4 Apr 2018 14:17 |
(lol, well it's lovely PH)
Chris :)
(you going for a visit?)
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PricklyHolly
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4 Apr 2018 13:59 |
I have sent you a PM with an attachment Chris.
I don't know anyone else to send it to, who might be ever so slightly excited at my finding.
:-D
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Chris Ho :)
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4 Apr 2018 12:44 |
(lol, well can't have em' all!. And Prickles now Tickled, yes, that's about right!)
Well Done, you can have a pasty!.
Chris :)
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PricklyHolly
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4 Apr 2018 09:50 |
Oh and as for the Poldark connection, i think they were more likely to be associated with the Wheel Tappers and Shunters Social Club.
;-)
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PricklyHolly
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4 Apr 2018 09:42 |
Morning
I have checked out the FamilySearch site thank you Kense.
Well, i have been a busy bee.
Chris.....Celia Bell and her mother Betsey aka Elizabeth's deaths were both registered in the 3rd quarter of 1890 Lanchester, Durham.
Father William died 23rd July 1880...Death also registered in Lanchester, Durham.
I have been on the Web: Global, Gravestone, Photograph Index and found a beautiful gravestone for the three of them buried together.
I requested a larger image and it was sent to me immediately.
Elizabeth died 19th Sep.....Celia died 27th July
Tickled, Prickles.
:-D
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PricklyHolly
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3 Apr 2018 19:11 |
Very productive indeed Ann.
Sorry i didn't get back on here earlier. I thought i had a work free today but something cropped up, and i have only just been able to pop back on here.
Thanks everone for all your replies.
Just going to grab a bite to eat, and then i will check out Chris's added information and Kense's link and pop back on a bit later.
I agree with Sue......It never ceases to amaze me the amount of information that Chris manages to find. She has come up with lots of weird and wonderful information regarding my family in the past and always points me in the right direction.
If i had taken on board her usual advice, i would have checked out FreeReg before ordering a copy of Philippa's birth cert and saved myself £6.
But hey, ho.......i got over excited and just ordered it anyway. :-D
Back later........Prickles <3
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Kense
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3 Apr 2018 18:45 |
If this link works for you, the image of the baptism register including the entry for Philippa Jane will be shown:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYLS-QJ?i=51&wc=3CB4-MNL%3A138123201%2C139971801%2C139971802&cc=1769414
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supercrutch
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3 Apr 2018 16:08 |
Chris Ho is one of the cracking helpers on GR. I know from experience :-D
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AnninGlos
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3 Apr 2018 15:54 |
Looks like a productive day PH.
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PricklyHolly
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3 Apr 2018 12:54 |
Woop, woop......
Baptism entry
County Cornwall Place (with link) Menheniot Church name (with link) St Lalluwy Register type (with link) Parish Register Register entry number 2177 Baptism date 09 Feb 1862 Person forename John Albert Person sex M Father forename William Mother forename Betsy Father surname HANCOCK Person abode Menheniot Father occupation Miner Film number 91 Transcribed by Michael Clare Credit Mike Clare File line number 1374
Burial entry County Cornwall Place (with link) Menheniot Church name (with link) St Lalluwy Register type (with link) Parish Register Register entry number 510 Burial date 15 Jan 1863 Burial person forename John Albert Burial person surname HANCOCK Person age 1 Burial person abode Menheniot Film DDP 144/1/14 Film number 36 Transcribed by Michael Clare Credit Mike Clare File line number 513
I am on a roll now. I have found baptism records for all of them.
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PricklyHolly
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3 Apr 2018 12:46 |
As you do.
:-D
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Chris Ho :)
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3 Apr 2018 12:45 |
(lol, well I'm so glad!, was just nosin' round with a cuppa!)
Chris :)
Edits
Baptism Day Month 01-Jan Year 1849 Parish Or Reg District Menheniot Forename Elizabeth Hooper Surname PRIN Sex dau Father Forename Mother Forename Betsy Residence Doddy Cross
Birth PRIN, ELIZABETH HOOPER - GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in LISKEARD Volume 09 Page 179
Birth HANCOCK, CELIA BELL (PRINN) GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in LISKEARD Volume 05C Page 59
Baptism Day Month 02-Apr Year 1868 Parish Or Reg District Menheniot Forename Celia Bell Surname HANCOCK Sex dau Father Forename William Mother Forename Elizabeth Residence Menheniot Father Rank Profession miner
Deaths Sep 1890 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------------ Hancock Celia Bell 23 Lanchester 10a 152
01 August 1890 - Durham County Advertiser - Durham, Durham, England
Death At Dipton, 27th ult, Celia Bell Hancock, daughter of the late Mr William Hancock, aged 23 years.
(so she was with her Brother, William A then perhaps, Dipton for him 1891)
Was William that 1885 Liskeard Death?...Edits (No!, just seen Elizabeth already a Widow, 1881 Dipton, surname Handeref!!, grief eh?)
26 June 1885 - Royal Cornwall Gazette - Truro, Cornwall, England
Death HANCOCK - At Menheniot, Liskeard, June 16. Capt. William Hancock, late manager of Wheal Honey and Trelawny and other mines, aged 57.
(Wheal rings a bell, heard that in Poldark!!, suppose you'll be saying you have him in your 'Tree' next, lol, lol)
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PricklyHolly
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3 Apr 2018 12:36 |
Bum Chris!!
Yes, that is my Jane. Father was William (Occ: Miner) and Mother Betsy/Betsey aka Elizabeth.......Philippa it is and I have just wasted £6 then!
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Oh, and Martha too.
Thank you for the link.
I lubs you i do. :-D x
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Sharron
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3 Apr 2018 12:09 |
My great-grandmother was baptized Sally. She married my great-grandfather as Sally and she was buried as Sally.
After my great-grandfather died, she remarried as Sarah. I think the vicar probably decided that Sally was not an appropriate name for reasons best known to himself so decided she was a Sarah.
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