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Way back I recorded the interview with Martin Bashir and MJ and have found and watched it again...….

""""MB----Do you not undertand why some people would question your having children to sleep in your bed,"""

""""MJ-----I play with them,we watch movies,I hug them, tuck them in and then we go to sleep..nothing sexual,,,,,,,,every child needs to be loved and be shown love.."""".…...all while hes jigging Blanket on his knee while trying to give the child a bottle...….with a cover over its head,,,,as have the other two children,,,,,,

Later in the interview,hes got a boy whos a cancer victim,sittling beside him and MJ all the time is holding and squeezing the boys hand.,the boy is in awe of MJ of course hes his idol and says MJ has been nothing but kind to him, and he loves N-Land…...

This took place after the Jordan Chandler case.

Twenty five million dollars :-0 he was expensive !!

Its the pay off That makes me doubt he was innocent

Money: the aphrodisiac that never lets you down - until it does, as Donald Trump & others realise.

Joy, I think, according to docs JWS paid a few off and them as his fame grew and he was earning huge sums for Charity and had amassed a circle of influential friends
he became almost "untouchable" even if some despised him.

100% agree Det but then why pay them off ? The damage or the truth as either may be is then already out there the allegations have been made very public, its the matter of the pay off that sticks in claw and it has done for years.

That’s one reason for thinking it’s ‘fishy’. Were they only in it for the money, or was the evidence too weak to take to criminal justice?

In either scenario, ‘Mud Sticks’.

why accept it instead of justice for your child, had always played heavily on my mind

Interesting ‘Opinion’ piece by the programme’s director in The Guardian.
https://tinyurl.com/y46fheeb

Although we haven’t watched the programme, we vaguely remember the 2 previous court cases. At the time we thought that something fishy was going on.
The 1993 civil case was settled out of court with $25 million paid to his accuser. Why do that if MJ was innocent?

'Charitable Workers' have, inadvertently or otherwise, been besmirched by one comment on this thread.

"Careful now"! :-|

Each to our own Madge
But these type of people are very clever at what they do
Thats why they get away with it for so long

Look how long Jimmy Savile got away with it

I am not taken in Joy by no means everyone has the right to a voice, I am no great fan of his, IMHO and no has to agree with me I think the TV doc stinks of a people making a few bob.

Everyone is taken in by his otherwise placid nice nature, his obvious musical talent and his childlike innocent persona
. All the most successful paedophiles hide behind a love of children and charitable work
. People don't want to believe he fooled them with his seemingly innocent nature :-( :-(

This really isn't new news,especially for Wade Robson,,,,,the claim goes back years 2013 ,,,,,its only the interview that's been made tv viewing,,,,,,well there isn't an interview as such its two reported victims talking about routes of the abuse they said they had gone through.

MJ had the money to have the best defence lawyers money could buy and he did and a star witness who declared a defiant NO...……..,,,,,,.he also had the abilty to make belive which he did.

Jackson had the money to ruin people
I think they were afraid to come forward

Apparently, some girls did complain to the police about Jimmy Saville long before he died. Because of JS's high profile the complaints were not taken seriously by the police and no further action was taken at that time.

The same could have happened with Michael Jackson.

Why did it take so long for JSavilles antics to surface,because it did by a victim, victims bury it deep inside them,,,and for Wade Robson it seems erupted when he heard Jackson had died ,,,,,,according his interview,,,there was no one to confront and to him he was the only one that had had a *special bond* to MJ.

JSafechuck and W Robson wasn't known to each other during their time spent to MJ.


It can take years before someone can break the silence,some never do.

I'm not being unsympatheytic with what may prove to be be a true "story", but why has it taken so long for these people to speak up ?
The man's been dead a few years.

DBS checks are useless - unless you've been caught - you're (apparently) okay!
They just make money for some Government department.
My sister runs a Youth club.
She has had 'volunteers' who have passed the DBS, and want to work in the Youth club - but she has 'got rid of' quite a few.
It needs people to study other people.
Why do they always gravitate towards that child, yet never voice their concerns?
Why do they always sit just around the corner?
DBS checks - 'Da Bull Sh*te' is what I call them - and I have one :-S

My parents had doubts about their neighbour in the 1980's. A male nurse working in a high profile London hospital who had presumably gone through stringent checks.

Nothing concrete just a little disquiet about some comments he made about prepubescent girls living in the street.

After they moved away he was charged, prosecuted and found guilty of the rape of a three year old girl. The mother had been befriended by him and totally believed he was trustworthy.

My Dad wondered, to his end, whether he could have done something to stop the foul crime occurring.

Chris.