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1 May 2019 19:01 |
I am trying to find out who were my fathers fathers parents. His name was Edwin Standen and married to Phoebe Sedley. Any info would be helpful
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1 May 2019 19:39 |
Bev, it would really have helped if you told us when & where they were both born as well as where they were married.
As a starting point (& we realise your enquiry was about Edwin) you have Phoebe in your tree as Phoebe Sedley 1876 Cannock, Staffordshi...
A tree on Ancestry has her as
Phoebe Alice Hulme 1876–1952 BIRTH ABT 1876 • Staffordshire, Stafford, England DEATH 1952 • England
Edwin Standen 1882–1930 BIRTH 1882 • england DEATH 1930 • England
They also cite the 1911 census Phoebe Standen [Phoebe French] - no justification for an alternative name. Age in 1911: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1876 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Staffordshire, Stafford, England Civil Parish: Kensington Search Photos: Search for 'Kensington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 101 Ifield Rd, South Kensington S W Marital status: Married Years Married: 12 Estimated Marriage Year: 1899 Registration district: Kensington Registration District Number: 2 Sub-registration district: Kensington South ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Piece: 126 Household Members: Name Age Phoebe Standen 35 Phoebe Standen 11 - born Fulham Cecila Standen 4 - born South Kensington George Standen 2 - Born South Kensington William Standen 0 (6 months) born South Kensington
The following names are transcribed but not on the image. Mary Elzth French 63 Sidney E French 28 Amy Grace French 20 Stephen French 19 Joseph Evans 62 Florence Evans 47 ....
Confirmation of mothers maiden name as given on the Ancestry tree, birth for William STANDEN, WILLIAM HULME GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 90
Perhaps you could give as more details please so that we can confirm your research?
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1 May 2019 19:44 |
The only Hulme/Standen marriage seems to be
First name(s) PHOEBE A Last name HULME Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1915 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™
PHOEBE A HULME married one of these people Edwin Standen
Spouse's last name Standen District Steyning County Sussex Country England Volume 2B Page number 845
If this is relevant, perhaps one of them wasn't free to marry?? Do you have a copy of the MC? Who does Edwin name as his father, and what was Edwin's declared age?
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1 May 2019 19:46 |
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Record Transcription: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
48, Danehurst Street, Fulham, London & Middlesex, England
Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Phoebe Sedley Head Married Female 26 1875 Domestic Servant Cannock, Staffordshire, England Phoebe Sedley Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Fulham, Middlesex, England
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1 May 2019 19:51 |
Baptism of Cecilia
Cecilia Alice Standen Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 26 Jul 1906 Baptism Place: Worlds End St John, Kensington and Chelsea, England Father: Edwin Standen - Bricklayer Mother: Phoebe Standen
Address as per 1911 census
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1 May 2019 19:55 |
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HULME, PHOEBE WOODWARD GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 257
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1 May 2019 20:07 |
Standen Household (3 People) 52 Glycena Road , Battersea, London, England
Phoebe A Standen Female 26 Oct 1878 Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 147 1 Cecilia A Standen Female 21 May 1906 Stores Wage Clerk Single 147 2 William Standen Male 02 Oct 1910 Shop Manager (Tailors) Divorced 147 3
Birth William STANDEN, WILLIAM mmn HULME GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 90
STANDEN, CECELIA ALICE HULME GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in KENSINGTON Volume 01A Page 170
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1 May 2019 20:11 |
Birth of the Phoebe posted by safc
HULME, PHOEBE MERINA SEALEY - GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 282
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1 May 2019 21:02 |
As it's same area as marriage? but you'd need the cert to check
STANDEN, EDWIN mmn LAMBOURN GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in STEYNING Volume 02B Page 302
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
LAMBORN Elizabeth Steyning 2b 439 Standen William Steyning 2b 439
Mother remarried Marriages Jun 1894 (>99%) Adams Harry Steyning 2b 554 Standen Elizabeth Steyning 2b 554
She is named on service record for Edwin. ( ON FMP some pages hard to read but discharged as "not likely to become an efficient soldier". Suffering from "melancholia" ) I note he does not answer the question on attestation form "are you married" one way or the other.
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1 May 2019 21:22 |
Elizabeth & second husband With other Standen children 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Foredown Road, Portslade, Steyning, Sussex, England
Harry Adams Head Married Male 40 1861 Agricultural Labourer Hurst, Sussex, England Elizabeth Adams Wife Married Female 52 1849 - Redlynch, Wiltshire, England Fanny A Standen Daughter Single Female 26 1875 - Sussex, England Henry Standen Son Single Male 24 1877 Carter On Farm Sussex, England George Standen Son Single Male 21 1880 Carter On Farm Sussex, England James Standen Son Single Male 17 1884 Carpenter (Jobbing) Sussex, England
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1 May 2019 21:25 |
Edwin 1891
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census New Barn Cottage, West Hill, Portslade, Steyning, Sussex, England
Elizabeth Stunden Head Widow Female 45 1846 - Wiltshire, England William Stunden Son Single Male 20 1871 Carter Sussex, England Henry Stunden Son Single Male 14 1877 Farm Labourer Sussex, England George Stunden Son Single Male 11 1880 - Sussex, England Edwin Stunden Son Single Male 9 1882 - Sussex, England James Stunden Son Single Male 7 1884 - Sussex, England Harry Adams Boarder Single Male 30 1861 Farm Labourer Sussex, England
Note the boarder
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1 May 2019 22:18 |
Bev, Sadly it seems the Edwin from Portslade was suffering from depression as per the service record, there are several reports in the newspapers. Will PM if wanted and if this proves to be the right person.
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3 May 2019 11:52 |
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1377504
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15 May 2019 17:57 |
Hi,
I have my grandfathers bith cert and confirms his mother was Mary Ann Lellaway and his father was Frances. I cannot at this time trace backwards and find any records of Frances. Help would be good thanks
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15 May 2019 19:18 |
Bev that's the wrong cert for the details of the person you have given as grandfather.
Can you please check as the birth cert you have is this one
STANDEN, EDWIN KELLAWAY GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 658
That is way before the Edwin George on this thread, as you can see from the dates. And that cert is NOT the man who married Phoebe, the ages are all wrong.
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15 May 2019 22:36 |
Thread headed Mary Ann Kellaway involving the Standens - last added to14 May -
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1377772
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