General Chat

Barbra, if you o.h. doesn't get on with the tablets, take a look at 5htp, a natural form of antidepressant. It's included in my lists from the hospital and I take it when I can get a supply, can't afford the full price but sometimes it's on offer at H and B for £5 a bottle of pills. It does help me stay calm, less anxious and get through stresses and is not addictive. I think it should be on prescription. If you o.h. is anxious you could get him eating oats, as they calm things down, also get Passiflora drops with ativa, they work too, always make me less emotional.

Good luck
Lizxxx

Talking about prozac etc reminded me I have a book issued by our local Mental Health Pharmacy service, when I was involved with an OCD self help group

It had lots of info about different medications so if anyone needs any help then give me a shout. I just dug out the book and will keep it somewhere I can find it quickly if needed. It was written in 2003 but can't be too out of date, I wouldn't have thought.

Lizx

Hi Gail thanks for letting us know you are ok. Pleased you had a little rain but hope you get more.xx

Barbara they are the same as prozac but a different maker. Can cause panic attacks in some, but are non addictive.
They take about three weeks to get into the system so hold on xx

Hi Barbra, I take two 20mg Fluoxetine capsules a day for depression. I have never had any side effects from them, they are better than the ones I used to take but I can't remember the name of them.

Caz xx

Sorry Carole, did mean to reply, just so tired. We are okay, the change in weather is a relief, we received 4 mil of rain last night, not much but it is water none the less.

We still have helicopters and spotter planes around all day, usually there is helicopter around in the summer anyway, but still have a few now. As we live fairly close to the national park it is kept an eye on most of the time. It is very much a wilderness, (national Park) and a great deal of it has never been explored. Parts of the park are called the Never Never for a very good reason.

We have still not unblocked the gutters, so must get that done. The gutters are blocked and filled with water, any sparks are then hopefully put out before any damage is caused.

Will be back tomorrow.

Love and hugs

Gail

PS Why does it take more time to unpack than it does to pack.

Carole there will be a lot to do there so she may not have computer on yet. Or maybe they are so exhausted with the tension of it all she is sleeping, poor love. She knows we are worried so she will be on as soon as she can.
Sending positive thoughts that they are all ok.
Caz xx

Pm sent to Gail last night. No answer, so do hope everything is ok with Gail. It's like lying in bed at night, waiting to go to sleep, but you can't until the kids are home from their night out!!

~~~~to you all xx

Oh dear Gail, I am so relieved. Stay safe dear friend. Will continue to hold you in our thoughts and prayers,
love and hugs,
Mary

Oh Gail thank goodness you are safe, I've been terribly worried about you and your village. Is everything ok now and the fire out?
We will just have to pray for rain for you now.

Caz xx

Stay safe Gail. Thinking of you and yours.
Everyone else.... take care and I am still here, just not fit enough to do all that I would like.
When the work is done, I will be back to normal.... well........ I never have been normal, but you all know what I mean, right? ;-0)
love Deanna XXXXX

Thank goodness to see you Gail, glad you are safe.

Just to let you know we are all safe and well and at home, though very tired. I have put a bit more on my temperature thread.

I will let you know more when I am less tired.

Gail

Hi Ann

I think him leaving 8 months after his wife died fits it all in even more. That must be why he left. I would say that it is the right Thomas and Margaret as there are too many coincidences. It looks like I have found his emigration record.

But I am 100% certain that the Thomas Musgrave in America in 1900 is mine as all the evidence fits especially with the info on his daughter Elizabeth and now I have found his other daughter there. That is proven beyond all doubt I'd say.

I know as a perfectionist this is going to be difficult Ben but I think that is the closest you are going to get to proof. Even if it was a short time after Ann's death, his journey could have been planned before. And maybe he decided on a 'new life' to get over her death. Ithink you are safe assuming that it is he.

Hi Ann

Thomas's wife Ann died in December 1885. If they left England in say late August 1886 for a 6th September arrival in Pennsylvania that was only 8 months after his wife's death.

I dont think there was that many Thomas Musgrave's who emigrated in 1886-1887 who had a daughter with them called Margaret or even Thomas Musgraves as the 1900 cenus lists very few Thomas Musgraves born 1825-1840 in America and most of them were American.

Plus the Margaret daughter to Thomas is the only one born 1869-1873 in England with a father Thomas that fits. Any further ideas? Shall I be safe with my conclusion on the record?

He could have lied about his age if they had a limit on older people emigrating Ben. Labourer /coalminer not a lot of difference, depends what he told them/what they wanted to hear. Sounds very likely it was them doesn't it.

Hi Gail

Sorry to hear you are going through a hard time with your home at the minute with the bushfires.

I may have found a passenger list for my ancestor Thomas Musgrave.

The 1900 census says he emigrated in about 1887. It looks like his daughter went with him to join his other daughter Elizabeth.

Thomas Musgrave had a daughter Margaret born in March 1871 in Coundon, Durham. A Margaret Musgrave wed Thomas Prosser in Allegheny, Pennsylvania in 1889. The 1900 census says Margaret was born in March 1871 and emigrated in about 1887 so that looks like Margaret, daughter of Thomas.

In September 1886 a Thomas and Margaret Musgrave arrived in Philadelphia on the ship Lord Gough. Margaret was aged 14 and Thomas was aged 48, although my Thomas would have been 58 at the time not 48. My Thomas was a coal miner and the passenger list says he was a Labourer. Could that be a basic term for a miner?

Are ages given on passenger lists reliable? My Thomas emigrated in about 1887 so it does seem a bit of a coincidence. Any ideas?

Once again, the sun is shining, it is a nice, mild day, except for the strong winds.Can only imagine what it is like to be in countries with extreme heat/rain. All those poor people suffering, it makes you feel so useless, not being able to help them, and makes your own demons etc. seem trivial. My heart goes out to all of them.

Wish I could follow your hypnotherapist's advice Sharron...like Carole, I have never liked me, would even use a stronger word.......

Carole, I have been on Amitriptyline 25 mg. since a few months after my aunty died in 2006. Am loathe to ask the g.p for different, stronger ones.Am actually amazed he still sends a prescription ever two months through to the pharmacy, seeing as he doesn't really approve of such meds......Another reason for sticking to the same meds.is that I need to keep a clear head for driving etc.am scared they would make me drowsy.
It is true what you say, I am so used to being found'strong', can't really talk about deep feelings, so tend to bury them as far as possible.NOT a good thing to do.

Take care.

Eileen x

Well done Ben, you are getting there.

Gail, still thinking of you, hope you can keep the animals safe but you and the family must come first. Here's hoping they can get it under control so that you don't have to leave.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carole

Clairejo, We understand, take time for yourself, you need to grieve, then come back to us when you are ready. Just pop in occasionally to let us know you are OK. Glad you liked the flowers.

Hazel, thinking of you too and hoping you can find a solution for your son.

Ann
Glos

Gail, you will be especially in my thoughts, I hope things are calmer maybe and you can safely stay at home, altho wouldn't want you to put your lives in jeopardy. Positive thoughts for safety for all our friends, in whatever situation you find yourselves.
Daft eh, too much water in some places and not enough in others, you would think in this progressive age there would be a way to even things out so life wasn't so difficult.

Barbra, you stick around my friend, s*d those silly beggars who have nothing better to do than try and bully folk.

YCaz, you too have been in my thoughts and I will try to call you next week when dozey face is at work lol

Hazel, glad your boy is safe and hope you can work out a way for him to see his little one over Christmas without too much unpleasantness from the Mum.

to all my friends,
love and hugs
stay on top,
Lizxxxx


p.s keep up the good work Ben, you are doing a great job.