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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 14:17

Referring back to my posting of the 1959 ER, these are all the Robertsons listed for the district

NONE of them is at the same address as IDA MARY

Alan Crawford Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Andrew Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Christina Isabel Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Elaine Esther Robertson***************same address as James Crawford Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Eva Francis Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Ida Mary Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

James Crawford Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

John Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

John Murray Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Judith Diane Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Kenneth Thomas Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Margaret Jean Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Martha Huntington Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Monica Catherine May Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Patricia Frances Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Peter Reginald Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

Winnie Agnes Robertson
Residence
1959 Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia

The ONLY 'James' has a second forename, and is clearly not the man being sought

Name James C Robertson
Birth Date 10 Apr 1916
Death Date 9 Jan 2005
Cemetery Belgian Gardens Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Belgian Gardens, Townsville City, Queensland, Australia

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 14:01

CUMMINGS
ERNEST JOHN CLA
STOBIE
M
1917
685 / 2 / 206

ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
CUMMINGS
JOHN
STOBIE
M
1909
685 / 2 / 705

ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
CUMMINGS
WILLIAM STOBIE
STOBIE
M
1911
685 / 1 / 104

ST GEORGE
CUMMINGS
MARY STOBIE
STOBIE
F
1913
685 / 2 / 607
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

CUMMINGS
ANN LEADBITTER************************
STOBIE
F
1908
685 / 2 / 74
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 13:15

Name Catherine Mcnaught Cummings
Sex Female
Father's Name Henry Black Cummings
Mother's Name Catherine Stobie
Event Type Baptism
Event Date 08 Mar 1904
Event Place Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom

Birth
CUMMINGS
CATHERINE M'NAU
STOBIE
F
1903
685 / 1 / 489
ST GEORGE

Parents' marriage
STOBIE
CATHERINE
CUMMINGS
HENRY
1903
685 / 1 / 85
ST GEORGE

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 13:01

Sibling for the one I posted some time ago

ROBERTSON
CATHERINE MCNOU
F
1927
685 / 2 / 209
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

Also registered Canongate

ROBERTSON
CATHERINE MCNOU
F
1927
685 / 3 / 377
CANONGATE

Several other Robertson/Cummings births in the St Andrew district within a viable time-scale, including

ROBERTSON
HENDRY BLACK C
M
1932
685 / 2 / 582
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

Sadly......................
ROBERTSON
HENRY BLACK C
0
CUMMINGS
M
1933
685 / 2 / 330
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)



AND...................among others

ROBERTSON
ANN LEADBETTER*****************************************
F
1935
685 / 2 / 370
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)


PLUS...............

ROBERTSON
HENRY BLACK C
M
1943
685 / 2 / 1149
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Mar 2024 12:53

Lisa -
how do you know that James's wife was Ida Mary?

None of the records posted so far have shown them to be together.

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Mar 2024 11:37

Scotlands People show 2 birth entries with James Robertson+ MMN Cummings YOB search 1928-1929

ROBERTSON
JAMES
M
1928
685 / 2 / 727
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)
NO IMAGE

ROBERTSON
JAMES
M
1928
685 / 3 / 1003
CANONGATE
NO IMAGE

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Mar 2024 11:21

This may be of use to you if you do not have his service record:

Service records for more recent campaigns, including Korea, Malaya and Vietnam are still held by the Department of Defence. Records that are in the open access period can be obtained through the National Archives of Australia

https://reftracker.naa.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=06PostWarDefRef

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 11:17

Ancestry tree for Colin Lyle Smith has record of only one sibling

Rita Isabel Smith Perry
1933–1993
BIRTH 27 JAN 1933 • Mackay, Queensland, Australia
DEATH 29 AUG 1993 • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

Aged 60 years; Date of Service - 1 Sept 1993. Buried with Colin Joseph Gleeson (first husband)

ADDED
A second Ancestry tree shows ONLY the same two children for Smith/McGuffie.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 10:32

Name Teresa E McGuffie
Marriage Date 1930***************NOT 1929 as per 'tree' on Ancestry
Marriage Place Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Date 1930
Registration Place Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Spouse
Arthur W Smith
Registration Number 111

First name(s) Theresa Ellen
Mother's last name Dale
Last name McGuffie
State Queensland
Registration year 1908
Country Australia
Registration number 1909/004104
Record set Queensland Births 1829-1919
Birth date 11 Dec 1908
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Hugh
Subcategory Civil Births
Mother's first name(s) Sarah Jane

Name Theresa Ellen Smith
Maiden Name McGuffie
Gender Female
Birth Date 11 Dec 1908
Birth Place Queensland, Australia
Death Date 27 May 1980
Death Place Queensland, Australia
Cemetery Mount Gravatt Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place Mount Gravatt, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia
Father Hugh McGuffie
Mother Sarah Jane McGuffie
Spouse Arthur William Smith
Children Colin Lyle Smith


From find-a-grave

Family Members
Parents

Hugh McGuffie
1869–1916


Sarah Jane Dale McGuffie
1872–1912

Spouse

PRIVATE Arthur William "Tom" Smith
1900–1973 (m. 1930)

Siblings

Elizabeth McGuffie Slade
1896–1975


Sarah Jane McGuffie Moodie
1898–1983


James McGuffie
1900–1934


Mary Agnes McGuffie Tappenden
1902–1980


Catherine Isabella McGuffie
1904–1904


Iris Agnus McGuffie Fraser
1907–1985

Children

Colin Lyle Smith
unknown–1971
(Accidentally killed, aged 19)
Commemorated alongside his grandmother, Elizabeth

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 10:25

??

Name Ida Mary Robertson
Gender Female
Residence Date 1959
Street Address 1 Nola Flats, 63 Strand
Residence Place Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia
Occupation Home Duties
Electoral Register Number 6794


Name Ida Mary Robertson
Death Age 74
Birth Date 18 Sep 1932
Death Date 22 Dec 2006
Burial Date 24 Feb 2007
Burial Cemetery MT Gravatt Cemetery
Cemetery Plot CREMATORIUM-MEMORIAL-ROSE GARDEN - 9-28

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 10:16

Ida Mary is not buried with James

He is in an Anzac grave.

No other Robertsons with the same reference as Ida

??
First name(s) James
Destination place - country AUSTRALIA
Last name Robertson
Destination country Australia
Gender Male
Ship name Mooltan
Birth year 1929
Ship official number 79866
Age 22
Ship registered tonnage 20952
Age as transcribed 22
Ship master's title Captain
Occupation Farmworker
Ship master's first name J K
Departure day 6
Ship master's last name Peter
Departure month 6
Shipping line P. & O.
Departure year 1951
Number of passengers 1027
Departure port London
Ship departure port LONDON
Departure country England
Ship destination port Brisbane
Entry struck out N
Ship destination country Australia
Destination port Brisbane
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Destination Brisbane
Category Travel & migration
State or territory Queensland
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Country Australia

UK address: Smallholding, Sateford, EDINBURGH*******************************

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2024 10:14

Good info Argyll :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Mar 2024 09:47

Someone named Sean Leader has James on a private tree on Ancestry.
Per Sean's tree, James had a spouse and two sons.

Sean doesn't give James's wife's name in his tree.
However, apparently her parents were Arthur William Smith and Theresa Ellen McGuffe, who spent their whole lives in Queensland, married in 1929, and had several children.

Therefore, I assume James and Ida married in Australia.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Mar 2024 09:27

The family suggested by Shirley, featuring the middle name Mungall, is not the right one. Names and dates don't fit.

There is no marriage of a James Robertson to an Ida Mary in Scotland, England, or Wales.

It looks like they may have married in Australia.

The 17th Construction Squadron was in Vietnam in 1966-71.
https://vwma.org.au/explore/units/825

Assuming "1st and 2nd Battalion" means battalions of the Royal Australian Regiment, the 1st battalion was in Korea 1952-54 , and the 2nd battalion 1953-54.

So presumably James had emigrated before 1952..


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 22:50

The man’s parents were the ones who married in Edinburgh in 1926 as per info found on find-a-grave via Ancestry

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Mar 2024 22:46

Marriage

ROBERTSON
JAMES MUNGALL
HENNIGAN
MARY O'D P
1950
647 / 26
HAMILTON

Birth
ROBERTSON
JAMES MUNGALL
M
1928
627 / 339
CAMBUSLANG
NO IMAGE

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 22:05

OP’s post is merely a direct transcript of the gravestone. No idea what she is asking for………

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Mar 2024 21:55

Name Ida Mary Robertson
Gender Female
Birth Date 18 Sep 1932
Death Date 22 Dec 2006
Cemetery Mount Gravatt Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place Mount Gravatt, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia
Has Bio? N
URL
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193696450/ida-mary-robertson

Ida Mary Robertson
in the Brisbane, Australia Burials and Cremations, 1831-2023
Brisbane, Australia Burials and Cremations, 1831-2023
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Detail Source
Name Ida Mary Robertson
Death Age 74
Birth Date 18 Sep 1932
Death Date 22 Dec 2006
Burial Date 24 Feb 2007
Burial Cemetery MT Gravatt Cemetery
Cemetery Plot CREMATORIUM-MEMORIAL-ROSE GARDEN - 9-28
Cremated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 21:44

No second name on the man’s gravestone, or on his birth registration

Ida Mary is commemorated in the same cemetery

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Mar 2024 21:37

This looks like two of the children

ROBERTSON
ROBINA MUNGALL
F
1955
647 / 886
HAMILTON

And
ROBERTSON
HENRY
M
1957
647 / 1017
HAMILTON