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jansmith

jansmith Report 22 Jul 2011 17:34

Along shot and i haven't read through the pages for a long time but has this marriage been looked at? As you are looking for a Jean!
Marriages Dec 1922

Fenwick James B McLeod Pancras 1b 120
McLeod Jean A Fenwick Pancras 1b 120

Renes

Renes Report 22 Jul 2011 19:02

Suppose you have all seen this from the

Sheetmusic Warehouse

Category Piano Solos
Title Sights of London - for Pianoforte
Stock Reference Number 64609

Composer Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick

Contents Twelve Melodies
Publisher Alfred Lengnick & Co. Ltd. London
Description © 1937, Very Good condition
Price £ 13

Nice momento ---from 1937

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 22 Jul 2011 19:49

I have that marriage cert in my file Jan.....Not the right father or age or second name which is Adasylla,and been followed up even so due to the Fenwick connection.

I have a thread on here about it somewhere....Cyn knows where I put it I think.. :-D

Cant remember if I have seen that Renes...I lose track of what I have seen and what I have at times...

But that is Evelyns godmother...

jansmith

jansmith Report 22 Jul 2011 19:57

Thanks for reply FannyByGaslight

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 22 Jul 2011 20:10

Here we go Jan. That Fans never know where she has put anything - I'm always tidying up after her!!!


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273853



Hi Renes, yes I've seen that on google. In fact, there are several references to various members of the Goddard-Fenwicks and some of them have been followed up but to no avail sadly.


There's just GOT to be a link here somewhere.

:-(

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 23 Jul 2011 11:00

As far as I know my mother (Diane Macleod) did not read music she played the piano by ear, so I doubt that she was taught by Evelyn GF.
Obviously I must have met EGF but have no memories of her, I wonder where she was living in 1932 when I was born, just a thought maybe my parents rented rooms from her. I think I was born at an address in Dafforne Road, Tooting or Balham, London
Love to all
Evelyn X

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 23 Jul 2011 13:10

Dafforne Road Tooting

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Streatham Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Wandsworth Borough

Address:
Dafforne Road Upper Tooting S W County:
London

in 1911 was a pretty wealthy area...
Its littered with Independent means people and wealthy business people.

jansmith

jansmith Report 23 Jul 2011 13:49

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273853?jump=7747014 have put this on this link as well.?father of James B above

????? could father have had middle name "john" not "James"
FENWICK, WILLIAM JOHN
Initials: W J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Musician
Regiment/Service: Royal Marine Band
Unit Text: H.M.S. " Princess Royal."
Date of Death: 16/10/1918
Service No: RMB/2039
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: Screen Wall. M. 73.
Cemetery: EDINBURGH (SEAFIELD) CEMETERY

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 23 Jul 2011 19:59

Evelyn, do you know the number of the house in Dafforne Road? It should be on your birth cert if you were born there.



Love. Cx.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 7 Aug 2011 15:28


This search has been going on for over two years now and it still remains a mystery. Here is a brief summary of what we have so far: (As this is really FBG's baby, she has verified this info :-D)

DIANE LESLIE MacLEOD born cJune 1906-8 India?

No verification of this birth can be found whatsoever. Searches have been
made of Indian, Scottish and English births by many people but to no avail as yet.

Possibilities: This is not her real name.
DIANE: Searches have been made under: Donaldina, Dolinda, Dolina etc.

LESLIE: She was very attached to her middle name of Leslie and insisted it was spelt that way. She gave the name to one of her sons. Some searches have been made re this name. More may need to be done.

MacLEOD : On her marriage certificate (1929 in London), she states her
father to be Major Robert MacLeod of the 1st Seaforth Highlanders, Deceased. Nothing of him can be confirmed despite extensive military searches being made. These can be found on ps 2-4 and 14-15 – 29 and 36 of this thread.

Her family were told that she went to live on Stornoway with ‘Aunt Kate and
cousins Donald & Ishbel (Isabelle)’. This family has been researched as probably the family of Rev. Donald MacLeod who was the minister of the church in Tarbat. The present Incumbent of that church has been contacted and was most helpful.

The family consisted of:
Donald Smith MacLeod 1854 -1930 in Roseneath, Dumbarton.
Kate Isles Wylie 1864 - 1935 (Widow) in Roseneath,
Jean Annabella 1888 - ?
Katherine Mary 1890 - ? Married Archibald K. MacLean.
Donald Stanley 1890 – Lieut. RN.
Murdo 1891 - Wounded at Gallipoli
Lizzie Isles 1893 – Married a McMurchie
Hector Ian 1895 – 1916 Killed in Action
Ishbel 1896 – 1976 in Inverness. Married a Grieve
Barabel 1898 – 1923 in Cornwall
Norman 1900 – Wounded in France 1918
Margaret 1900 - ????
Roderick Callum 1902 - ?

More needs to be done on Margaret and Roderick. Margaret was still at home on the 1911. Where did Donald jnr go? Various agencies in Tarbat have been contacted re this family and Diane but nothing found.

It was hoped we had a lead to Jean Annabella but…….? See this link for further info

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273853

Barabel, who was a Seed Analyst, for the Board of Agriculture, died at the
age of 25 in Cornwall. FBG discovered a family by the name of Bolitho one of whom married a MacLeod from Ross-shire. See p. 44 of this thread for more details.

Diane stated that she went to school in Stornoway. The most likely school
would be the Nicolson Institute. A search has been made for her under D.L.M but there is no sign of her under that name. An enquiry at other local schools may be helpful, maybe looking for a child with the Minister’s address rather than a Diane L. M.

There is no sign of her under DLM on the 1911 Scottish census see p.41

A member on here discovered that ‘Diane’ worked at Springfield Hospital in London from 1927-1928. see p.32. Where was she before that?

In 1929 she married, as Diane Leslie MacLeod, a Herbert R.J. Roy in London. Up until her marriage, she received a private allowance, source unknown. The address given on her marriage certificate is 53 Khartoum Road, Wandsworth, London. The Electoral Roll for 1929 shows the family living at that address were named Kirby. There is no sign of Diane anywhere in Khartoum Road . She may just have been boarding there for a short time prior to her marriage.

Evelyn was born in 1932 at 44 Dafforne Road, Wandsworth and, at least, Diane and her husband show up there on the Electoral Roll. The voters listed at 44 Dafforne Road in 1932 are:

Evelyn Gertrude Goddard-Fenwick Herbert Robert John Roy, Diane Leslie Roy, Kathleen McDowell. The voters listed at the same address in 1931, in case it is of relevance, are Frederick Robert Smithson, Alice Smithson, Edward Hubert Mearing, Doris Mearing, and Kathleen McDowell, and in 1933, Evelyn Gertrude Savile Goddard-Fenwick, Emily Goddard-Fenwick, and Kathleen McDowell. Was this a rental property?

Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick is whom our Evelyn is named after and was her
Godmother. See ps. 22-23 of this thread for more details.

Various living Goddard-Fenwick’s have been contacted but to no avail. You can pm me for details on that.

So this is where the search is up to so far and many members have taken Evelyn and her search to their hearts.

If anyone feels they would like to tackle any of the unresolved issues or
re-check anything that has already been done….please do so. It may be that something has been missed or new information is available. Any new info can be added on here.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could solve this for Evelyn? Cx

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 7 Aug 2011 18:25

Thank you so much Cynthia for doing this for me. Yes it would be really wonderful for me if this problem could be solved, some good news would be very welcome just now.
People have been wonderful with this search but sadly Diane still remains hidden.
Much love to you all
Evelyn XX

Renes

Renes Report 8 Aug 2011 18:27

Nudging up

Please read Cynthia s synopsis and see if you can help Evelyn

Tabitha

Tabitha Report 9 Aug 2011 05:03

Nudging up again to keep this on the front of the board

All help appreciated - thank you in advance

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2011 08:06

Well I've been looking in newspapers yesterday for anything on Major Robert, but nothing!, which I thought seemed a bit strange, there's usually some snippet...

I came across a piece on Donald in Tarbat, 1889...
Find of Ancient Coins in Ross Shire.

Several silver coins apparently of great of great antiquity, and two silver rings, have been found in the grave yard of Tarbat parish, Ross shire. the Rev. D. Macleod Tarbat Manse who has the "find" believes the coins to be of even earlier date than the silver pennies of Alexander 1.

http://www.wentworth-house.info/history.htm

(above link for Manse)


WO96 Militia Attestation Papers FMP (added recently) checked there, but nothing, only a Robert born 1880 Stornoway, Seaforth Highlanders, 72nd Foot, son of Angus and Catherine, 11, Branahuie, Stornoway as on 1891 Scottish Census.
So no good there!, wrong age, wrong battalion.


http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I91079&tree=Fasti

(above link comes up on google)

A 41, Dafforne road comes up in The Times, 1931 advert for Rental of Flat, (apparently double fronted house, of two flats) so 44, probably the same.

(phew!, all those Macleods, Mcleods, I slept like a log, lol)

Hoping something soon turns up, would have thought that a Major would have had some mention in a newspaper...

Mystery goes on...

Chris :)






Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Aug 2011 13:19

Indeed it does Chris and thanks for that hard work. Glad you slept okay!!


It seems to be that her father wasn't a major if, indeed, he held a rank at all. If, indeed, his name was Robert.......ho hum.


The addresses in Khartoum Road and Dafforne Road, do seem to have been rental properties which doesn't help.

Thank you for the link to Wentworth House - I had tried to find that link recently but failed miserably :-(

I have seen the link re the antique coins thanks.


Any more ideas welcome.... :-D

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 9 Aug 2011 18:29

I am not sure if it has been noted before but I have found both a Goddard Fenwick as well as our Evelyn on the Dafforne Road. I thought you must already have it though. If you want me to look again I will. I need to keep occupied tonight to stop my self shaking.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 9 Aug 2011 18:35


British Phone Books, 1880-1984
about Mrs P Goddard-Fenwick

Name:

Mrs P Goddard-Fenwick

Address:

44 Dafforne Rd Sw17

Exchange:„#. BALham

City/Town:

Balham

Directory Title:

London Surnames E - K



Publication Year:

1957



Directory County:

London



Page Number:

1244

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Aug 2011 19:06

Hi LK......hope you're okay and stay safe from the dreadful things happening near you.


Re Dafforne Road....I don't remember the phone book info so thanks for that.


If you want to keep occupied, have a read through and see if you can plug any of the gaps which there are.....maybe with completing enquiries into the MacLeod family and finding the missing people. They've got to be somewhere surely?

Keep your chin up....Cx

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 9 Aug 2011 19:48

In haste as I need to be elsewhere shortly!
Think I've tracked the Goddard Fenwick family back to 1851 but haven't time to cut and paste it all so if anyone else wants to have a go please do. Search on Christophine Goddard to find them. Her maiden name was Fenwick. They don't use the double barrel in any of the Census' but it appears in other records like deaths and probate.
I had a wild idea that Diane might be with them in 1911 but can't find them. Wonder if they were in Canada by then.

Here's 1901 for starters:


1901 England Census about Evelyn G S Goddard
Name: Evelyn G S Goddard
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Christophine Goddard
Gender: Female
Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas South Kennington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington First
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 258
Piece: 416
Folio: 48
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Christophine Goddard 57
William H W Goddard 27
Evelyn G S Goddard 25
Emily F Goddard 24
Louisa C C Goddard 18
Edith Middlewick 18

Julie

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 9 Aug 2011 19:58

Oh and 44 Dafforne Rd is on Google Street Maps and very nice it is too!